on the protective order that prosecutors have asked to be issued to the former president. limit what information trump and his team would be allowed to publicly share about the case, coming in response to a series of threatening posts untruth social by the president, including when typed in all caps that reads, if you go after me, i m coming after you. joining us now for more on this is the former fbi that system deputy director, and author of the book compromise, counterintelligence and the threat of donald j trump. peter, thanks for joining us on his. i appreciate it. and what seems as if right, laurel, is doing his best to frame this protective order as an attack on the press. it s clearly more about these explicit threats that are being made essentially saying as i just mentioned, if you re coming after me, i m going after you. that could mean a lot of different things. but this is not necessarily new when it comes to donald trump and what he is being attacked he s gone after t
making sure that we are talking to voters about lowering prescription drug costs, energy costs, really focused on what matters most to them right now. by the president remains in this dead heat. look at, this with trump, in the latest new york times college poll. 43 to 43, with me now msnbc political analyst julian castro, of course, he was had secretary under president obama and then vice president biden and a 2020 presidential candidate. welcome to you both. ali, start things off for us, if you will. the president is on vacation the last couple of days. quite a split screen moment as former donald trump is being arraigned, president biden is going for a bike ride in delaware. what is next for his campaign and the strategy here, really, as he s looking at campaigning against someone who will be three times, possibly four times indicted and maybe going to trial during that time? yeah, yasmin, this is
look, there is very little legal upside for former president trump testifying at trial. some of the defenses, the people around him are claiming he will have to take the stand if he wants to do it. but i can t envision a scenario where any of his attorneys is going to council him to get up there on the stand. with president trump, he s a wildcard. former president trump, i don t know what he is going to do. should he take the stand or it would be a disaster for him. peter, thank you sir. appreciate it. the biden presidential campaign, meantime, is just about the last place you will hear anyone talking publicly at length about donald trump s troubles. that includes biden campaign manager chavez rodriguez who sat down with an exclusive interview with alicia menendez on last nights american voices. for us, it s about making sure that we are really talking to the american people about the issues that matter most. we know that these court cases will continue to move forward and they wil