intent. unfortunately, new york tools are not as good as federal tools. but, you know, what emily said is exactly right. you know, if trump s trump is goes out of his way to insert plausible deniability, a cover story into everything he says. like on the day of the riot. like with the michael cohen testimony before congress. but that doesn t get you off the hook, if if the prosecutors can, otherwise, prove that the person had the intent. so, there is lots of ways to do that. i mean, a great example is cohen s testimony before congress. right? i mean, he said, trump didn t say go lie. you know? he said, go say, you know, x. and he understood that to mean go lie and then trump didn t correct it. right? the world believed that i forget if it s the trump moscow tower and the timing of that. the world believed that that there was none of that during the election, when, in fact, there was. and that s because michael cohen lied because he knew trump was telling him to do it, without
the affection is gone but i conclude he has been in the laundry business. wloo do you think he is in history? i don t think hitler is fair. who s who s anomaly. culigula. he admires the autocrats in history. that makes me nervous as an american. he ignored the nepotism rules and putthem uncharge of middle oos policy. jared kushner is cooking deals right as we speak with the murderror in saud a arabia. i m a little more troubled about the trump moscow tower and mixing his business with foreign policy. did he run for fooz make
the things he said before about any of these topics. challenging his own officials to make a tough decision whether to go public and negate what he said, if in fact it s falgs. false. after the break, donald trump adds to the sea of conflicting accounts about just how long of a 2016 campaign he was pursuing a deal to build trump tower moscow. the president acknowledging those talks went on longer than originally stated. also ahead on the very same day that the president uses the term fake news to explain big policy differences with his intel chief, he tells the publisher of the new york times that he s, quote, entitled to a great story from that paper because he came from queens and became president of the united states. yes, you heard us correctly. and trump s pund id weighs in on his future opponent saying kamala harris has had the best launch and biggest crowds. let s see, aleve is proven better on pain
questions mueller would have to explore. we have no idea what he s concluded in that regard but whether or not there s a crime that occurs here, this would have to be a powerful narrative to send up to the hill and if people on capitol hill are interested in doing their jobs and considering whether this president has engaged in high crimes and misdemeanors, leaving himself vulnerable to blackmail from a foreign power, has got to ripping those bells. i have to come back to the reporting that the fbi opened a counterintelligence investigation into the president and your reporting doesn t suggest the conversations about trump tower moscow had anything to do with that. but when knit together with all of the incidents that you guys reported, the president s statements about nato, the president s conduct around firing comey and after asking him to see to it to let flynn go, it certainly is consistent with the kind of narrative that would have given the fbi at the highest levels those conce
one, the president deknowed to the whole nation he was the one who directed the payments to cohen. i don t think we can take that off the table. the second thing is about rudy giuliani and rudy giuliani being wrong about the trump moscow tower. again, we are splitting hairs here, whether it was october, whether it was november. that he waited this long also to say that about rudy giuliani and to kind of just dismiss rudy giuliani. again, don t know we can take those comments off the table. no, but it s a great point. we re going to talk about that in depth in the next segment. all they do when it comes to the fact pattern, and i have to assume prosecutors are sort of building facts based on testimony and data. i don t really know what ter adata is but it sounds like a whole lot of stuff. all we hear out of giuliani or trump, heidi, is sort of fog. and so you re right, we did get out of this interview, again, great questions, great questioners and great fact checking in today s paper