appeals stated, meaning it was blocked. because acknowledging that even ron klain and others have said this is a work around. they found their own way to create this edict. now the sixth circuit says they have overruled that. i don t know how that works it goes to the supreme court now. how quickly could we get a decision there? will: i think it could move to the supreme court quickly. you point out the conflict between the fifth circuit centered in new orleans and sixth circuit centered in cincinnati. when you have that kind of conflict between two appellate courts, it compels the supreme court to resolve that conflict as quickly as possible. pete: interesting. in the sixth circuit, it was a trump judge who voted against it. it was an obama and bush judge obama judge and bush judge that ultimately to uphold this mandate which hopefully, as will said, the supreme court will still look at. well, representative lee zeldin out of new york, the state where the most draconian of these mea
and aggressive but faces the limitations of the clock and the trial for steve bannon s contempt by a trump judge, the date was not set until july so certainly someone like mark meadows think they can out weight this. you look at this and say i mean, i think the conclusion has to be that whatever the committee can do, where is the criminal invest investigation? in the watergate 1974 the supreme court, i m not the lawyer but the supreme court clearly indicated executive privilege is not an absolute defense in a criminal investigation there is no time clock on that and certainly this administration will be here until 2024. as the months go on no matter what the committee achieves as adam schiff and others pointed the finger, where is the justice department? where is the justice system in looking at this beyond the foot
contempt by the committee. on the other hand, you have top pence aide marc short who is cooperating. jamie gangel is reporting he might be able to share texts he exchanged with other white house officials around january 6th. so where does this all lead the investigation in your estimation? well, look, ultimately i think the trump strategy is the same as it often is, and kim pointed to it. it s to delay in the hope of you know, delay equals defeat for the other side and to outwait the investigators. and this committee is being thorough and dogged and systematic and aggressive, but it does face the limitations of the clock and of, you know, we saw today that the trial for steve bannon s contempt by a trump judge, the date was not set until july. so certainly someone like mark meadows and, you know, when you factor in appeals and so forth, are thinking they can outwait this. you look at all of this, and you say i mean, i think the conclusion has to be that whatever the committee can
fact that we had one branch that was the bulwark for western democracy and that was our federal judiciary. one case after another. one trump judge after another. one obama judge after another. one bush judge after another said no, get it out of here. and if you even argue it, i m going to sanction you. yeah. the judiciary held, we shouldn t have been in that last line of defense. right? that s number one. number two, alarmism is always ridiculous and absurd until it s not. january 6th. something really bad happened on january 6th, and we should pay attention. agreed. thank you to you all. new data on covid can i say quickly. we have to go to break, but we want to make a statement. we want to let everybody know that ed luce has forged his own path. he is not following his father s footprints. thank you.
was upheld against students that want an exemption. what the court said, and this was a trump judge in indiana, federal judge that made this ruling, what they basically said is, you know, look, getting preventing getting a vaccine or refusing to get a vaccine is not a fundamental right. there s supreme court juris prudence that goes back to hold that proposition. as long as they had exemptions in there for things that are fundamental rights like a religious object shun to getting a vaccine, the courts will uphold the mandates that doesn t mean they re a good idea. policy-wise we can argue until the cows get home. i don t think the courts will stop the executive branch from imposing mandates. charles: the white house deputy press secretary karine-jean-pierre was asked how businesses can respond.