I do not think the people united states would stand for it. what kind of problems, mister president? i think they would have big problems, big problems. i just do not think they would stand for it. they would not sit still and stand for this ultimate of hoaxes. all right, let s discuss now democratic congressman ted lieu of california, he s a member of the house judiciary committee, a former trump impeachment manager, and a former air force prosecutor congressman. congressman, it s so great to see you in new york in person. your are first in-person guests on this show for almost a year. so, thank you for making time for us. thank you, ayman. i wanted to be here and be your first guess. listen, there s a lot to discuss. i would like to get your thoughts on what happens first of all if this appeal by the department of justice is not granted, basically. we have learned from the government s position that it would do serious damage to the government s ability to protect national
Rhode island, and trump impeachment manager, and his new book out today is titled house on fire, fighting for democracy in the age of political arson. your reaction to what lindsey graham first said? is that an example of political arson? absolutely. thanks for having me. this is a continuation of a republican party that is defending the former president at all costs. this is an individual who promoted violence to stay in office, even after he lost the election. this is a perilous time for our country. it s why i wrote the book. i used my experience as a mayor, as a member of congress battling trump and trumpism for four years and then serving as an impeachment manager in the second impeachment to sound the alarm and use those experiences to write about as a way to make certain people understand that this midterm election is about the preservation of our democracy. every time we stand up to a
He writes this. earlier this week, i fell short of my mid-month goal. this is a disaster since a poll on tuesday showed me losing to a former trump impeachment manager. my opponent is gaining momentum and i really need your support. please, i m begging. even if this works, and even if this is all true, i haven t worked in campaigns for a while, tim and is robert are more recent veterans of the trenches, but i ve never known this sort of pathetic groveling or weakness to work. what is he doing? well, first of all, unfortunately, that pathetic weakness and groveling has become all too common place, and by the way, that number was just made up by somebody. there was no goal. there was no 3,440 i mean, that s just total fantasyland, crazy silliness. he is sounding an alarm. they re trying to motivate their folks, and that s not unusual. maybe he s taken it a little too
That some of that will be incredibly woven in. as the second trump impeachment manager, which was focused on the insurrection, do you have any doubts about the connections between those extremist groups and folks in trump s orbit, if not the former president himself? i have no doubt. i have to tell you, i have been watching and attending these hearings of the january six committee. i really commend them for bringing to light the precarious nature of our democracy and all of the accomplices involved, and of course the critical role that a really criminal president, frankly, played in this. so i have no doubt about that. the facts and the evidence are really important to get to the american people. that is why i am glad they have done such an excellent job. it will be great to see what they can learn, exactly about what the president did, what did he know and what coordination, either with him or the people around him, with
It s a very difficult situation. this is unprecedented in many ways. there is an argument to be made that not making that referral takes the politics out of it and allows merrick garland to do his job. there s also the counter argument that the committee needs to be forceful in their belief to force garland to take action. this is one of the conversations of the committee behind closed doors. ryan noble with new reporting. thank you ryan. joining me now is a former trump impeachment manager. let s start with the video of this tour led by gop congressman barry laudermilk. the chairman said individuals on the tour photographed and recorded areas of the complex not typically of interest to tourist, including hallways, staircases and security points.