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the joint commanders. that s the president of the united states and the secretary of defense. so when we saw at the time trump fire secretary esper and movesy agents to take over the department of defense, including an acting secretary, all of us in public life were alarmed. there was an acting secretary of homeland security. the chairman of the jcs commands no one, the service chiefs can command no one. i agree, i think we were in great peril. i think this guy was actually edging toward using any element of american power he could grab to retain the presidency and overthrow the election. that s what was going on. we were commenting on it at the time with great alarm. i think we ought to be grateful that general milley, priton,

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