the insurrection, he s in the text messages with mark meadows trying to have the legal this bogus legal basis for mike pence being able to overturn the election and these are just the things that we know about. also still unanswered what, this means for someone like a kevin mccarthy who also we know spoke to former president trump on the day of the insurrection, and if these numbers are not required hand never tell their stories, that s going to be a big hole in potentially in the committee s final report and that s problematic for everybody. and melanie, jackie right there hits on a big question. the committee deserves, you know, praise for the scope of it search talking to state election officials, going high up the trump chain of command, inside the white house and within the campaign and the republican party, but this testimony from members of their own, members of their open like jim jordan and others could be critical. is he the test case of will the committee force cooperati
quietly but diligently and really building a case or building a sphere of what happened, the context of january 6th that really started, we know now, in november with president trump trying to buy time in hopes of overturning the results of the general election. and remarkable success, i would argue, getting pretty high up the trump chain of command and the trump inner circle. i m not sure if we have lisa back. the chairman just yesterday, the chairman just yesterday saying he still hopes the committee sent a letter to ivanka trump. we know from other testimony that ivanka trump was among those that went into the office on january 6th begging her father to try to do more to stop it. he would not do so. in the committee s letter back in january, they said they wish to discuss conversations you observed between president trump and pence the morning of january 6th and the other conversations you may have witnessed or
kushner, the president son-in-law and senior advice exhibit and the former trump adviser katie mcfarlane. that s what they are reporting. we also know based on this plea deal that flynn is cooperating with the special counsel which suggests he has information on a person or persons higher up on the trump chain of command. so with all that background i asked the president this morning if he was concerned about what michael flynn might tell the special counsel. here s what he said. no, i m not. and what has been shown is no collusion. no collusion. there has been absolutely no collusion. so we are very happy. so he says no collusion, no collusion. that of course is one of the things that the special counsel is looking into. and the thing we are all waiting to see is just what michael flynn is providing robert mueller in exchange for what appears to be a fairly lenient plea deal. let me ask you about the other news on today.