spill over into the case? oh, absolutely. i mean, it doesn t matter that he is the former president of the united states of america. right now, he is no different than any other criminal defendant charged in fulton county. so anything that he says can and absolutely will be used against him if fani willis can use it against him in his criminal prosecution. gwen, one thing there s no question about it. pretty clear cut, huh? one thing i think is very notable from what the judge said yesterday, trump cannot make any direct or indirect threats, can t intimidate witnesses but specified for trump as a defendant not for the other defendants. he can t do it on social media. would things like trump saying, you know, a few weeks ago, calling out lieutenant governor, former lieutenant governor of georgia from testifying, saying he shouldn t testify, would that be seen as witness intimidation? i think that would be up to a
the governor the state authorities could pardon trump, but it goes to a board in georgia. it s not just a dictate of the governor. it goes to a board, and you have to complete your sentence. it s got to be five years after the sentence, so it s a nonstarter. trump cannot really be pardoned in georgia if he s convicted there. the question for a lot of people is and me is what happens if he s convicted. i think he will appeal it. i do not believe that donald trump will serve any jail time before the election. i think if he is not sent back to the white house, if he s not reelected to the white house, i think then he will eventually have to serve the sentence. his best chance of getting out of all of this is to become president again is federal crimes, is to delay matters long enough that he could influence state legislators and perhaps the governor to try to muck things up. i think eventually justice is coming, especially in georgia.
it wouldn t surprise me if fani willis found other examples where people on the trump team used what she deems to be improper pressure to get witnesses not to testify. paula, there s a key difference in this case and the fed federal case. in georgia, trump cannot pardon himself even if he is elected president next november. reporter: that s right, jake. this is one of the reasons that the former president s legal team has been most concerned about georgia. not only the evidence that many of us are familiar with like that call with the secretary of state, many other key pieces of evidence that fani willis has gathered. once this case is brought, if he s indicted, he can t make it go away. if he s re-elected to the white house, most legal experts agree he would likely have his
your friday night. you too, buddy. all right. today, the federal judge overseeing special counsel jack smith s case into donald trump s attempt to overturn the 2020 election and shoot a protective order. judge tanya chutkan establish limits on what evidence in the case trump can t discuss publicly. judge chutkan ordered that donald trump cannot disclose sensitive materials, including recordings, transcripts, interview reports, and related exhibits of witness interviews and materials obtained from other governmental entities. donald trump s legal team can show him the sensitive materials in the case, but trump cannot take notes on any information that would identify witnesses and, according to the protective order, quote, during any time that the defendant reviews sensitive materials outside of defense councils presents, the defendant must not have access to any device capable of photocopying, recording, or otherwise replicating the sensitive
donald trump s legal team can show him the sensitive materials in the case, but trump cannot take notes on any information that would identify witnesses and, according to the protective order, quote, during any time that the defendant reviews sensitive materials outside of defense councils presents, the defendant must not have access to any device capable of photocopying, recording, or otherwise replicating the sensitive materials, including a smart cellular device. this protective order was a partial win for jack smith s team, who originally sought to prevent the public release of all evidence given to donald trump. let s not forget these rules for sensitive materials are being enforced on the twice impeached former president who was comfortable with leaving classified documents in a bathroom at his florida residence. donald trump s legal team has stuck to a very obvious strategy in this case. we naked about first amendment rights, delay, and then make it