constitutional and norm erosion. in the midst seems to be fraying at the edges, actually at its core. how some are of these contributors addressing this institutional dimension of the crisis that we face? right. well, i mean, one of the things we ve talked about this on this show before is the challenge that this era poses to james madison s conception of how american democracy should work. madison back in day was extremely worried about the rise of the daily newspaper. he was worried that people were going to get too much information too quickly and therefore not make regional logical decisions about governance. now we re just swimming in a sea of information, bad information, true information, untrue information, our defenses are becomi becoming overwhelmed by this.
president trump did not do. i took the indictment, i had it in my hands and i talked to him about what was in it, the specific units and the gru, the military intelligence unit of russia and that these were actors of the russian state and did he want to see it. he said no, he wouldn t touch it. put it down on the table. we then argued is too strong a word but went back and forth in an intense way. this is remarkable television for a good eight to ten minutes about the allegations. at one point the russian president said let s make it clear, whoever was and he denied it was the russian state that was involved, whoever did it even if it was russian individuals what they took from the clinton campaign computers was real information, true information, not made-up information. i suggest at one point you re saying if they stole real money