the end of last year, 2 1/2% growth at the beginning of this year. now we re down to just 1.3% growth. that is it. i think that stall speed for america s economy. less consumer spending, less business investment, in the april through june quarter. i ve got another number for you that also confirms a very weak economy. durable goods orders, big-ticket items like cars, trucks machinery, and planes, down 13.2% in the latest period. that s the lowest order book for factories all the way back to twine. so when you add it all up, we re at stall speed. feels like we re going into recession and to a majority of people, it feels like we are in a recession already. very rough numbers today, martha. martha: indeed they are. and as you point out, sort of how people feel about the economy is, i always say a very individual experience, you know. but when you look at these numbers it spell as pretty