were joined by whistle blower. david mcbride. david, welcome to the show. so glad to have you. thank you very much. 9, it s long. thank you. the pleasures ours. let s start at the beginning. you have a personal history of public service. you attended sidney university and then earned a 2nd degree at oxford. you joined the british army and served in germany before attending the elite royal military academy at sandhurst. you then commanded a platoon in northern ireland. after a period in the private sector, you returned to australia and you joined the army there. as an attorney, you then served 2 tours in afghanistan and earned a combat service metal. it was during your time in afghanistan that you saw evidence of war crimes. you reported those crimes through the proper channels and then what happened? well, it was quite surprising. i didn t want another quite clearly. i became the problem. and that is one of the things i guess it was a loss on it. if you with what your recordi
trained to do when witnessing evidence of a crime. he went through his chain of command. but when his chain of command refused to do anything to investigate his allegations, he went to the media, the resulting outcry let to something called the brereton commission. led by major general justice paul brereton of new south wales who led an investigation into mcbride s allegations. not only did justice burton find that everything, david mcbride said was true. he recommended that no charges be filed for mcbride s decision to go to the media. and what was it that david mcbride alleged? he said that while he was serving in the australian army as an attorney, he saw that $25.00 australian soldiers were responsible for the cold blooded murder of 39 afghan civilians. the soldiers then planted weapons on the dead bodies in order to photograph evidence to justify the killings in something they called throw downs. david mcbride did the right thing. the bremerton commission says so the aus
the holocaust that genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. 2 2 2 ah, the difficulty that national security whistleblowers face is not unique to the united states. other countries around the world treat their national security whistle blowers harshly, especially when those whistleblowers reveal evidence of war crimes. one of the best and most recent examples is from australia were david mcbride, a former australian army attorney, is facing criminal charges because of his revelations that australian soldiers committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in afghanistan. mcbride decorated combat veteran now faces the prospect of spending much of the rest of his life in prison. i m john kerry aku and you re watching the whistle lowers. ah. 2 2 2 2 david mcbride is one of those rare whistleblowers who did exactly what he was trained to do when witnessing evidence of a crime. he went through his chain of command. b