20, yeah. 22. that s more kids than newt has got wives. i think that will play really, really well in iowa. you know, you and i were out there in 1988. the meat locker. the coldest place in america in january. but the remember 88 bob dole, the fight was over second, between the sitting president of the united states, george h.w. bush and pat robertson, a tele advantagist and robertson crushed bush. and i remember being at headquarters that night and saying if pat robertson can do that well in the republican iowa caucuses, anyone can. but the republican party today, john, you know as much as i do about politics, both of you. but you know the republican party is a lot more pat robertson today than bob dole. yes. she is the favorite to win those caucuses. now, don t mistake me. she is not going to win the nomination. don t be sure. she ll burn out.
news here. for the first time in my life, i know something before howard fineman. debbie wasserman schultz, a great friend of this show, no thanks to us. she is now chair of the all politics, as well. i may have created debby what s her name, bachmann michele bachmann, her name is eluding me tonight, i guess i m embarrassed by the fact we created her. the missle came out of the show when she said let s have a mccarthy period again. my first reaction is that s a very good pic. she is very likeable. woman next door. very likeable, very smart and knows every big player and donor in the party. and she wanted a big job in the congressional leadership. this is her big job. national leader of the party. and it s going to get bigger, because she has a lot of money to help raise, especially in florida. in south florida. she s going to have to go to texas and that is the route to greatness in the democratic party, by the way. you know who is a great fundraiser? no, go tel