it won t. wait until you see who s appointed. do you think mitch mcconnell will support them on the gang of six? probably not. exactly. if it did, the entire gang of six were apointed, then you could say, okay. mitch mcconnell and harry reid were serious about doing the big deal. that s guts to do that. those are the six to do that. that s not going to happen. because not this close to the election site. what about the trigger mechanism, the enforcement. that makes it all happy, right? the reason why there was a holdup in the end for the trigger is because everybody expects the trigger to be pulled. it is going to happen. and whether it s the medicare provider, cuts, the pentagon hair cuts which will be tough for members of congress.
chuck alluded to this before whether you look at the underlying bill of the supercommittee, come on, at the end of the day, it s a wash. all he did was avert disaster. here s what we did. this is not the end of the year, this is a small deal over ten years. we took this small step on debt reduction and set up a trigger mechanism that will take another step on debt reduction as ezra pointed out a few minutes ago without doing anything to support an economy that is barely climbing back to health and doing anything on the revenue side where something should have been done. no, it s not a good deal at all. we shouldn t speak
terms of quote, savings, which are not real savings, doan occur until november of 2012. so we re playing the game again. we re we re speaking right. the americans say we solved the problem. we got together. we re going down the road. when, in fact, the truth is, we re going to be in worst shape because of this, not better. okay. so, let me get this straight. there are no cuts in this right away? no real cuts in this. that s number one. number two, the super committee you don t think will come to anything in terms of cuts. and if they do, do you think or if they don t agree, do you think the trigger mechanism will work or be will that fall apart too, in terms of your knowledge of how washington works? i think we ll bypass the trigger mechanism. we say time-out, it doesn t apply. one congress can t bind the next, number one, and 60 votes in the senate. had you had this trigger mechanism in there, and a 67-vote majority to re to get
beyond 1-2 years from where we are now is not likely to happen and when you pull the bill and actually see that, gee, for 2013, you have 546 billion for security category, and 501 billion, nonsecurity, and ten years later, those have been in received, 200 billion dollars, it is hard to see how that is a cut, especially when you know that for one thing, apparently, the baseline numbers are considering that the bush tax cut expire in january 2013, and, i mean, we could fight but it presumes they go out of existence and also, you ve got there are things like the trigger mechanism, in this. and. alisyn: before you get into that, i want to stop you, because the details you are giving us are interesting, we heard the $1 trillion in cuts, start immediately, and you say that that is different from what you are reading? it difference from what i am reading in the bill, itself.
yes, sir, you are going to get paid, and we are going to give you the equipment to win the war and we are not going to doom you and your children to grief. alisyn: good morning mr. ambassador. what worries you most about this debt deal. the possible sperveght indiscriminate cuts in the defense budget over the next 10 pose a grave threat to national security. the idea you can cut defense by 50% on the one hand and non-defense discretionary by 50% on the other does not reflect international reality. i think it will harm news ways we can t even calculate at this point. alisyn: are these cuts only happening if the trigger mechanism comes into play? i think the negotiating dynamic in the joint committee