joining me is paul helmke, former president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence, and eugene robinson, of course, pulitzer prize winning columnist for the washington post and an msnbc contributor. paul, you devote your time and life to this story. which way do you see it going in terms of how far the vice president s task force will go next tuesday and then how far the president will go and then how far the congress will go in terms of gun control and gun safety? i doubt if they re going to go as far as i d like. i personally think they should present a comprehensive plan, deal with background checks, deal with military-style weapons, deal with trafficking, deal with the special protections the gun industry gets. deal with trigger locks. put them all into a comprehensive bill. it s going to be tough to get through. the problem with doing it single bill by single bill, people say this wouldn t have stopped this shooting or that shooting. do a comprehensive bill. then if you
the old trigger locks. put them all into a comprehensive bill. it s going to be tough to get through. the problem with doing it single bill by single bill, people say this wouldn t have stopped this shooting or that shooting. do a comprehensive bill. if you have to negotiate to keep the high capacity ammunition magazines and give up some of the military-style weapons, then you have trade-offs you can make, but put everything on the table. i think biden needs to vice president biden needs to do that. i think the president needs to do the same thing. the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let s put the whole program out there if we can. do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don t know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular let me go to gene robinson. i m not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that s
gets. the old trigger locks. put them all into a comprehensive bill. it s going to be tough to get through. the problem with doing it single bill by single bill, people say this wouldn t have stopped this shooting or that shooting. do a comprehensive bill. if you have to negotiate to keep the high capacity ammunition magazines and give up some of the military-style weapons, then you have trade-offs you can make, but put everything on the table. i think biden needs to vice president biden needs to do that. i think the president needs to do the same thing. the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let s put the whole program out there if we can. do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don t know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular let me go to gene robinson. i m not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean,
shouldn t have their hands on a gun if you close the gun show loophole and i also voted for a lock to be sold with guns so that you have a trigger lock, $5 you can have a trigger lock and that actually might have prevented this if the mother had had trigger locks on the guns. chris: we got about a minute left. she would have been able to perhaps prevent this. what do you think of wayne lapierre s offer? it is pretty empty. that is the only answer is to put more guns in schools? look, we already have armed officers in many schools in washington, d.c. we have armed officers in schools and some of that is appropriate and perhaps we can do more. it actually doesn t cost $8 billion. we have 130,000 elementary and secondary schools in the country. if you had two officers in each that would cost $25 billion. where is that money going to come from? chris: i will give you you
shouldn t have their hands on a gun if you close the gun show loophole and i also voted for a lock to be sold with guns so that you have a trigger lock, $5 you can have a trigger lock and that actually might have prevented this if the mother had had trigger locks on the guns. chris: we got about a minute left. she would have been able to perhaps prevent this. what do you think of wayne lapierre s offer? it is pretty empty. that is the only answer is to put more guns in schools? look, we already have armed officers in many schools in washington, d.c. we have armed officers in schools and some of that is appropriate and perhaps we can do more. it actually doesn t cost $8 billion. we have 130,000 elementary and secondary schools in the country. if you had two officers in each that would cost $25 billion. where is that money going to come from? chris: i will give you you