times on the stand. people inside the courtroom said rudy giuliani would just sit there looking on with little reaction. what do you make of that as somebody who knows a court room, that does not seem to be a good way to win a case to look on stoically as these two compelling witnesses cried. unless you are contemptuous of the system which rudy apparently is, he said he hopes to get an appeal so he can get a fair trial before a fair tribunal record and i don t know what that looks like, even if he got an appeal. certainly this was a fair proceeding. he is just tap dancing and the music is stopping. giuliani, and we discussed this he was supposed to testify he said he was going to testify and he had evidence to back up his lies and he did not takes the stand in his own defense that would have been unwise but he was still doubling down about the falsehoods of these women. the judge rebuked him saying it could lead to another defamation case he keeps lying about these women