you heard about the liberations that led to a guilty verdict on eight charges but left ten others unsettled. paula duncan was speaking out. tom dupree and ninth circuit attorney for dylan, great to have both of you tonight. she decided to speak out even though the judge sealed the names and said the jurors, he wanted them to be safe, she felt she wanted people to know what went on behind closed doors. you don t often get that perspective from a juror. you always seek it as a trial were, fascinating to hear what jurors are focused on, usually not what the lawyers think. for example i m noticing people i mapping and reminds us we have to be on alert and on our best behavior at all times because they are paying attention. i found it fascinating and great that she shared with people what the thought process was and is not afraid. i see a lot of hope for our democracy.