that kind of evidence come in at some point in a trial of this kind of case goes to trial? in a civil trial, it could end up becoming relevant, especially if she s going to be attacked in terms of her credibility. you know, i would think that there s some sort of criminal components, even in a civil case, judges have some of the way to keep things that are even if technically relevant, are too prejudicial and won t really light in the jury. remember, the jury is supposed to be dispassionate and able to weigh the evidence clearly and barely. as the e. jean carroll case shows. they were careful to separate the sexual assault by rape versus the sexual assault that they found liability. and two faiths point, i think it s important to note that in the same way that ms. dunphy
it turns out that this lawsuit is true. it was worse, much worse than what we thought we were seeing on tv where she describes him at that time as constantly on viagra, constantly popping viagra, drunk morning, noon, and night. that s the phrase used in the lawsuit. drunk, morning, noon, and night. and verbal flights of madness. as crazy as he sounded, talking about the ballots, when you read the quotes that they say are recorded of his obsessions with things like the pianists s of jewish men, and i can t go further than that because it gets crazier than that, does that kind of evidence come in at some point in a trial of this kind of case goes to trial? in a civil trial, it could end up becoming relevant, especially if she s going to be attacked in terms of her credibility. you know, i would think that there s some sort of criminal
it could be relevant, yes. we will see. is there anything in the emails that corroborate anything about say the 2 million dollar pardons for sale? not especially, no. have you been able to review all these emails? yes, we have a wonderful team and maine together my teams, we have gone through virtually all of the emails. when will we hear the recordings that are in this lawsuit? so those will be disclosed in a normal discovery process, within litigation, some will be offered as evidence at trial, and so they will come out through that process. justin kelton, think you very much for starting off our discussion tonight, really appreciated. thank you. lawrence thank you. joining us now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york, he s professor of practice at nyu law school and msnbc legal analyst. and andrew, jested is still
thank you fo her and robbie kaplan here together, i watching them come out of the courthouse every day during the trial, you d see them come out and they would wait for one another depending on which one would come out for, as they would hold hands and walk out together, holding each other like a united front. seeing them together, seeing them as an indivisible pair in this together in every possible way, really i felt like i understand more about how e. jean got through this. how they did it. it was eye-opening to me and i m glad that they re both over with it. they absolutely needed each other for this to happen. robbie kaplan needed that client, that client needed that lawyer. i ve seen that kind of lawyer find relationship and that kind of bond that happens in a crusade like this. it s very special. it is a closer, and ultimately
i think it will send more women to become public intellectuals, to speak out when they see something wrong. for sure. but i think more broadly than just an a gender based comment, i think it may embolden people to be interested in the truth again. that you can t just a lie with impunity, that your words matter, the matter whom you are. a lot of misconduct, of course, from donald trump happen from when he was not president. clearly the message is that these were not presidential acts, they are not acts of leadership, they were not acts that were worthy of an american citizen. and i think people will be thinking about that, and women in particular will feel somewhat comfortable to speak out more. it s inch by inch, trial by trial. that s a fine way for this to develop. former federal prosecutors faith gay and andrew weissmann, thank you both very much for joining our discussion tonight. thank. you when we come back, fulton county district attorney fani willis said that donald trump