is some shadowy cabal that there is this deep state. and what keeps experts up at night is the idea that anyone can pick up on an anti semitic trope and act on it is one individual with easy access to a firearm. and a target, and that s really pointing to a likelihood that there will be increased threat of attacks like this going forward. what has to be done to reverse this trend expert on extremism and officials at the dl say more people with influence from the white house and congress to school principals to pop culture. artisan influencers have to speak out more against anti semitism. but they also say it s got to get more personal with conversations inside american households. brian todd cnn washington alright, joining me right now is the ceo and national director of the anti defamation league. jonathan greenblatt. jonathan. good to see you. so i mean, this upward trend is alarming, and you just said in brian todd s piece that you know this trend says something sick about broader s