ap row sin and he shot george zimmerman, what did they say? when they pulled up, that s when i walked away. when i was on the phone with 911, the lady heard him in the background and said is that him? can i speak with him. this is the third incident we ve had with him. they re aware of my name this is the third incident i ve had with george he pulled a gun and so i shot him. so do you know where george zimmerman was at the time when you and matt saw each other today? no i was not aware. everyone down there knows who george zimmerman is. why do you think he s been in so much trouble since the trayvon martin trial, since his trial? that i m not sure seems like kind of a hot head. he s an animal. you think so? i don t know. i don t know. he s been continuously getting into problems. you said it took police not long to come.
attorney during the trayvon martin trial. great to have you on. the officer charged with murder in this case. do you believe he ll be convicted? that would require premeditation. well, the first-degree murder charge does require premeditation. that can be momentary. it s a nuance but it can come after you have an opportunity to reflect. if he had one or two shots that may not be premeditation and otherwise would be a second-degree murder charge. second-degree is when you re acting in the heat of passion, a sudden fight, a sudden provocation. here is the problem. you look at that videotape and you see him drawing down and shooting eight times with a slight change between or break between the 7th and 8th. someone s going to say on a jury that was an opportunity to reflect and then when you keep shooting it turns it into
arthur ashe, they spoke out on issues that mattered at pretty critical times. there are important issues out there and for athletes to recognize they re citizens as well as entertainers and they ve got a voice that s legitimate i think is important. i think is useful. the first time we heard lebron speak out about social issues was during the trayvon martin trial. he didn t shy away from giving his thoughts about donald sterling saying there was no place for him in the nba. he s now become the go-to athlete when it comes to social issues. well good for him. andy scholes reporting live for us, thanks so much, i appreciate it. we will have a one-on-one tv exclusive with president obama on sunday. he ll join state of the union s candy crowley to talk cuba, north korea, and his last two years in office. that s sunday morning, 9:00 eastern right here on cnn.
reasons. it was not a black power jury or a pay back jury. i think it was a credible jury, geraldo. i don t think simpson was freed for racial reasons. i do not believe o.j. murdered gold man and simpson on that case. are on. j. still reflecting acases liket the trayvon martin trial. it could have set us back to a degree because, you know, i really started thinking that the zimmerman verdict could be pay back for o.j.? you know some call george zimmerman the white o.j. . here simpson. so now i began thinking that re this is white s way of getting them back. we are going to let zimmerman off even though the evidence against him is overwhelming. c if certainou ways it could havek set us back because now you hava
to show how oscar broke the door without his prosthetic legs on which counters the story that he told authorities that he was wearing his legs which he said indicated that he thought it was a pursuer thought he was pursuing, rather, an individual who had broken into his home. the defense says oscar would not be able to swing a bad like an able-bodied person and had the experts show how it could have happened with his legs on. why does this matter how the bathroom door was hit? for the answer we ll turn to greater legal minds than me, former prosecutor faith jenkins and nbc legal analyst lisa bloom, author of the new book suspicion nation, inside the story of the trayvon martin trial and why we continue to repeat t. welcome back, lisa, and welcome, faith. thank you. i ll start with you, lisa. prosecutors want to prove that this murder was pre-meditated. how does the angle of the bat help with that?