direct or indirect in the actual decision and the action of shooting down the missile? chris, you can t draw a final conclusion to an investigation before you had the investigation. let me tell you what we know and people can begin to make their own assessments. we know to a certainty within the last month, a major convoy of 150 vehicles including tanks, artillery, multiple rocket launchers, and armored personnel carriers all crossed over from russia into this area of ukraine and these things were turned over to separatists. this is one instance. we know to a certainty the separatists gained sufficiency in using sophisticated surface to air missiles and have shot down 12 aircraft in the last months including two transport planes. we know to a certainty we saw the launch from this area of
direct or indirect in the actual decision and the action of shooting down the missile? chris, you can t draw a final conclusion to an investigation before you had the investigation. let me tell you what we know and people can begin to make their own assessments. we know to a certainty within the last month, a major convoy of 150 vehicles including tanks, artillery, multiple rocket launchers, and armored personnel carriers all crossed over from russia into this area of ukraine and these things were turned over to separatists. this is one instance. we know to a certainty the separatists gained sufficiency in using sophisticated surface to air missiles and have shot down 12 aircraft in the last months including two transport planes. we know to a certainty we saw the launch from this area of
did they have some complicity, direct or indirect, in the actual decision and the action of shooting down the missile? chris, you can t draw a final conclusion to an investigation before you ve had the investigation. let me tell you what we know and people can begin to make their own assessments. we know to a certainty that within the last month, a major convoy of 150 vehicles including tanks, artillery, multiple rocket launchers, and armored personnel carriers all crossed over from russia into this area of ukraine, and these things were turned over to the separatists. this is one instance. we know to a certainty the separatists gained sufficiency in using sophisticated surface to air missiles and have shot down some 12 aircraft in the last months including two transport planes. we know to a certainty that we
aircraft, in the last months or so, two of which were major transport planes, and now we have a video showing a launcher moving back through a particular area there, out into russia, with at least one missing missile on it. so we have enormous sort of input about this, which points fingers, and now we have at who, mr. secretary? at who? well, it basically, it s pretty clear that this is a system that was transferred from russia in the hands of separatists. we know with confidence, with confidence that the ukrainians did not have such a system anywhere near the vicinity at that point in time. so it obviously points a very clear finger at the separatists, and that s why president obama and the international community are demanding a full-fledged investigation, which russia said they would do.
so, two of which were major transport planes, and now we have a video showing a launcher moving back through a particular area there, out into russia, with at least one missing missile on it. so we have enormous sort of input about this, which points fingers, and now we have at who, mr. secretary? at who? well, it basically, it s pretty clear that this is a system that was transferred from russia in the hands of separatists. we know with confidence, with confidence that the ukrainians did not have such a system anywhere near the vicinity at that point in time. so it obviously points a very clear finger at the separatists, and that s why president obama and the international community are demanding a full-fledged investigation, which russia said they would do.