we did video recreations of the flight. in that case they would take the nose up, try to throw them to the back, and try to throw them off balance and rock it back and force. that is the only thing that struck me like terrorism. everything else is basically six or seven pings. and pings don t tell me terrorists. pings say something is wrong if that is all you have. but there is like i said what about the transponder being turned off? that is something the pilot can do manually? no, we don t know if the transponder was turned off. we know we got no more signals from the transponder. the only way we know if it was turned off, some interruptions from communications, is from some sort of communications from the cockpit. well, mary, you know the safety of the 777 it is a great airplane, and you know the level of redundancy on the airplanes,
powered by three different generators. if those go out, you have a fourth generator that you can deploy, driven by wind to add power back to the radios and communication equipment. so, when you say intent, are you referring specifically to the transponder being flipped off yes. and therefore, when we re hearing, again, conflicting information, malaysia versus wall street journal news, two unnamed u.s. investigators, they re saying this plane was indeed in the air four hours after that transponder flipped off. right. well, i ve been waiting to hear what rolls royce had to say about this, because i know that data is streaming back to rolls royce, so they re talking about the engines they make the engine, for people who don t understand the collection. right. so, when that data s being transmitted every 30 minutes, it goes anywhere that aircraft is, and that s for maintenance reasons, so that you can compare one flight to another and for efficiency reasons as well. f
pilots can shut down the transponders. pilots want anything in the cockpit they want control over. but it makes no sense. the transponder being turned off whether voluntarily or through force, the akars reporting would continue. malaysian air hasn t come through with any other information about other structural issues. just the engine. and i think the ntsb had said that they didn t have the data package for the structural part of that, that s why it s only the engines being reported. very strange indeed. very strange indeed. michael goldfarb, peter bergen, thanks very much. indications the malaysian airliner may have kept flying for hours after its last control with ground control.
security correspondent. intriguing comments, jim, from the cia director, john brennan, he s not ruling out terrorism. and his words, quote, not at all. what else are you hearing? no question. first of all, truly remarkable developments today. the idea that one, the plane had a completely different location than was originally thought. in fact, on the other side of that peninsula. and two, also the circumstances vastly different from the working theories. a sudden event that disabled the aircraft or brought it down. in fact, made a u-turn and flying for an hour. so and these, of course, then changed the calculations about what the possibilities are. as you say, had an opportunity to ask the director of the cia a question about in this morning. he was speaking at a council on foreign relations event so i asked him about this transponder being turned off and does that give him further suspicion, the agency any further suspicion this was an act of terror. his response was they were sti
tracking signal went dark. jim sciutto, they re not ruling on the terror. no, the clues on the flight have been changing so rapidly and as those clues change and new information comes in, intelligence agencies are reacting, chasing down the leads to see if there are any evidence of a terror link. so far they haven t found that evidence, but as you say, they are not ruling it out. and as cia director john brennan was giving a talk in washington, i learned for the first time about this transponder being turned off. so i asked him about that to see if it increased his fears. here s what he had to say. there is information that the transponder was turned off and that it continued to fly, made that turn after the transponder was turned off. and if that information gives you anymore indication or suspicion that it was an act of terror? on this issue of the transponder, there are a number of very curious anomalies about