trump. the white house and vladimir putin have said there was no collusion. let s turn to judge andrew napolitano. hilo. hi, shep. shepard: much has been said about obtaining e-mails in the in regard to this investigation. it s been widely said trump s lawyers believe this was illegal, a horrible thing happening. which is ridiculous. when they ran the transition, the government services administration gave them the computers, the software and the server. every time they went on those computers, every time you go in any gsa-owned computer, you get a notice. there s no privacy. the e-mail you send belongs to a federal government. just like here, belongs to the company. there s tens of thousands of e-mails sent and received from transition people. many of them are white house staffers working in the west
the one that went on the sunday shows claiming it was a video and now we know all along, we know that attack had nothing to do with the video. sean: great reporting. we appreciate it. joining us now, eli lake, sara carter. eli, let s start with you. incidental surveillance. this is what devin nunes was talking about. what bothered him. now we find out susan rice seemingly is unmasking the names of people but only trump transition people or trump what those conversations were if they were picked up incidentally. why is that dangerous and why should the american people understand the seriousness of this? i want to just stress that i don t know other things she requested to be unmask but the way i understand is that the national security can staffer that was doing a reviewf
intel agencies would be allowing this information and free flow. actually, what do you think? democrats in the past, including al franken, have complained about this 702 rule, that it can easily be misused and abused. there are two issues, we have late-breaking news this afternoon and early this evening that chairman nunes conceded that it may not even be that there were any trump transition members on these interceptions, that is may have even been as little as foreigners discussing the trump transition. martha: just to clarify, he s not sure what it seems to say, could have been phone calls, could have been emails. not sure how many people were grouped into those was the entrance but with god a long way to go on those. that detail is important. that means there were not trump transition people, maybe foreigners discussing the transition, which is a huge difference. this point was made really well in the washington journal today,
transitions who said that transition people need clearances in order to lock at the fbi background reports. the transition people need to read the reports. these authorities say there are other ways that the president could give a clearance if he were serving as an adviser or put him on the intelligence board and many of them have business interests in the government. there seem to be no show stoppers. his kids would run the business, but he did not tell us that his kids could get security clearance. we will find out how the public responds to that if it does
shows claiming it was a video and now we know all along, we know that attack had nothing to do with the video. sean: great reporting. we appreciate it. joining us now, eli lake, sara carter. eli, let s start with you. incidental surveillance. this is what devin nunes was talking about. what bothered him. now we find out susan rice seemingly is unmasking the names of people but only trump transition people or trump what those conversations were if they were picked up incidentally. why is that dangerous and why should the american people understand the seriousness of this? i want to just stress that i