signature to it. shepard: he s about to declare a national emergency. of this we were not aware. of this we are confident lawsuits will be coming. chad pergram is live on capitol hill. this had been talked about, chad, our senior producer. it was uncertain whether he would do it. it seems certain that there will be legal challenges. there will be. he has under the statute the ability, about multiple reasons as to why you can declare a national emergency. he does have firm ground there. the thing i would look more carefully at, shep, what we call transfer authority. so if you have individual spending bills and they have only allocated 1.375 billion for the border wall, does he go around congress and try to move money from account a to account b inside the spending bill without getting the blessing of congress. part of the statute says that you have to get a sign-off by appropriations committee. part says that you can go around it. does he say take the department of homeland securi
dhs, you can move money around between the different silos, department of defense, dhs and other things using the transfer authority. there s certain limitations on how much you can move. there s also this idea of whether or not the simply has to notified congress that he s doing it or if he needs to get permission from congress. chuck schumer says he needs to have permission from congress. and then there s a bunch of baskets of money that can president can tap into if he declares an emergency. some of them are us to use. others carrying increasing risk getting tied up in legal action. there s just so much right now, shep, that is unknown. so much that is so many plates that are spinning in the air. we don t know which one the president will choose at this point. shepard: soon enough. john, thank you. we just got word from the white house a weird looking shot the white house has just informed us that the president is running behind. we ll hear live from the president in just a
most people don t really understand. the president can use transfer authority to move funds between departments to add money to wall construction, by any attempt to do that would likely be met with protest from democrats on capitol hill. however, new fox news poll finds support for building a border wall increasing. now, 46% of registered voters say they favor a wall of three points up from last month. speaking to sheriffs and chief of police this afternoon, president trump pledged to make good on his central campaign promise. we will get the job done. the wall is very, very on its way. it is happening. meeting with the president of columbia, ivan duque, the president stressed the need for a wall to stop cross-border drug trafficking. closed pledged to work with him to trafficking in colombia. we are working together so that columbia eradicates some of
listen here. you know, the numbers are almost $23 billion, which you don t report too often. it s about an 8% increase over last year. so if you look at the total funding, it s over almost up to $23 billion. it s 8% higher. the border area is happening, it s going to happen at a really rapid pace. of course the president still reserving the option to declare an emergency. that s something that he said on many different occasions, shep, he really doesn t want to do. i think things are more in flux at this moment than they were yesterday. we ll see. shepard: interesting. there s this talk of pulling money from other piles that were designated for other things. what are the guidelines about that to build a barrier? you know, a lot of that is open to interpretation. the president has got what is called transfer authority. he s got reprogramming authority. if you re within the silo of
dollars say there is a whole a lot of problem with each one of those ideas, each one of those moves. how are democrats preparing if the president decides to try to take those routes? katiy, the conversations tha i heard most is something called transfer authority. it does exist. it is limited power by the percentage that you are taking from one department and by how much of the department you want to give it to your budget and what percentage does that money represents. but, republicans are kind of relying on it right now to try to convince the president that there is a way for him to be able to say that he got his wall. that s what this is always about is trying to figure out how the president can save face with his base and people that have listened to rallies and conservative media. this was something that came up yesterday in the press conference with mitch mcconnell, he was asked about it.