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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 17:47:00

much. the u.s. is against this. they say the fear of escalating this war. they don t think they could be used in time for the current offensive, which is already starting. so make your best case argument. hi, andrea. i m here in brussels as part of the nato parliamentary assembly, which is basically nato s parliament. countries appoint members of their own congress to the larger bodies. we ve been having discussions with nato members and i was in the munich security conference a couple of days before that. so i ve been talking about this with international and nato defense leaders and a couple of things are clear. number one, the ukrainians have an advantage right now, but it will not last. number two, if they have to go on the offensive and before season ends, otherwise, the russians will rebuild their military power and continue to try to press this fight. for all that to happen,

Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 17:13:00

michael, you re the ambassador in kyiv. it s a scaled back embassy and all of a sudden, you re getting a presidential visit with no military on the ground. not only no military, but none of the usual component of any kind of security on the ground. amazing. right? it is amazing. and by the way, we have a fantastic ambassador in kyiv who knows how to handle this so we re lucky she s in place. and they do have a scaled back team, but they have a first rate team. second, i just want to say i applaud president biden for making this trip. this is a symbolic trip. it s a historic trip. it s a strong signal to ukrainians that they are with him. some of those people he was shaking hands with there, they were just in munich with us two days ago and i was hearing from them about how they needed to feel this support. so i think it was a very important visit. by the way, it also weds

Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 17:48:00

ukrainians need to fight differently. they need to have a deep fight and have combined arms fight. fire and maneuver, which means they have to establish air sue per yorty, which they haven t been able to do since the first days of the war which means they need fourth generation fighters. that might mean an f-16, 18, but they need more advanced aircrafts. that s why we ve been pressing the administration on a bipartisan basis to help them advance their air force to give them what they need to fight and win. now, also in munich when i was there, vice president harris said as you know that russia has committed crimes against humanity. i was talking to the deputy attorney general, lisa monaco, about that, and what the justice department can do to hold putin accountable. here s what she said. we ve been working with our ukrainian partners to collect evidence, analyze it to bring cases. we re bringing cases of our own

Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 17:08:00

reporter: so, there is a very obvious front line right now. and two sides, ukraine and russia, are in an artillery fight. this is a traditional ground war and it looks and feels from what i ve read and seen in historic documents, like world war i. you see a long line. it s a curving line that goes from the north and stretches to the south around kherson. about 800 miles long. one one side, you have russian troops and mercenaries from the wagner group. they are heavily armed with artillery and on the other side, you have ukrainian troops in trenches also armed with artillery and the two sides are lobbing them back and forth. and the russians are trying to advance. they have a military advantage. more men and artillery. and they, for the last two weeks or so, ten days, have intensified their assault. the assault has in fact begun. and the ukrainians are trying to

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