they ve helped him do that. yeah. advance the notion of what are the facts, why can t we we re going it to try to sti to facts here. the white house as well, the congress, the investigators, let s find out what the facts are here. that s what is absent from the white house continually, from the beginning to the present. the idea from the white house constantly is to lie, to not give forthcoming answers, to try and discredit the investigation and real ly to take a wrecking ball to traditional american democratic process including the respect, the responsible institutions of government. i should say as a final note, cnn has polled this as others have, the majority of americans find special counsel s investigation credible. listen, it s a good conversation, it s a worthy one. matt, phil, carrie, carl, we re going to continue to. thanks very much. next, should you be t d off about the president working on