but after richard nixon and after the watergate scandal, a tradition grew up. it s not a statute, it s not a law, but it s a tradition that the president and the white house must stay out of justice department criminal matters. and so you had when george w. bush tried to fire seven u.s. attorneys, it became a scandal and a series of congressional hearings and the attorney general bruno gonzalez ended up losing his job over that. and barack obama was reluctant to comment on pending criminal investigations lest he be perceived as interfering. donald trump clearly does not understand that and i think you re right to suggest that until recently, he s had people around him who have tried to block him from his worst impulses, now he has a sitting attorney general who has criticized and impugned the mueller investigation and suggested that hillary clinton should be prosecuted. so it s really a worrisome situation going forward. and the last thing i ll say is i don t believe that donald trum
nixon because the second article of impeachment against nixon was obstruction of justice, meddling in the justice department, miss using the fbi, ordering the irs to investigate his political enemies, and some government officials resisted nixon and some didn t. but after richard nixon and after the watergate scandal, a tradition grew up. it s not a statute, it s not a law, but it s a tradition that the president and the white house must stay out of justice department criminal matters. and so you had when george w. bush tried to fire seven u.s. attorneys, it became a scandal and a series of congressional hearings and the attorney general bruno gonzalez ended up losing his job over that. and barack obama was reluctant to comment on pending criminal investigations lest he be perceived as interfering. donald trump clearly does not understand that and i think you re right to suggest that until recently, he s had people around him who have tried to block him from his worst impulses, now h