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find new voters. get them to the polls. like i said, and i ll continue to say, it is pitchfork and torches time in america. they love it there, but could people take the message wrong way? what is the wrong way? what is the message of pitchforks and torches? it sounds like angry townsfolk going to storm some situation they are against, right, whether it s frankenstein or whatever they re coming after. so what s the other message? that s the question, right. good one. thank you very much. let s bring in david frum, a senior editor at the atlantic, who was a speech writer for president george w. bush, and cnn reporter sarah murray, who s been on the trail with trump and knows what it s like to be in this environment. sarah, let me start with you. a lot of talk is just political talk. it s just rhetoric. it gets people heated up. but this seems to be different, that it s not just contrary, it s hostile. and it s getting to be
bodies there. are you seeing any of that? reporter: am i seeing tampering? no. i m seeing local townsfolk moving bodies, putting them on the side of the road. does the luggage, do things look as if they ve been disturbed? absolutely. why? it s almost what you don t see. i ve been in, unfortunately, in situations like this before. you see the trapping of someone s life. you see their purse. you see their wallet. their cell phone. you see nothing of anything of value here right now, victor. that s disturbing. and, you knowi the men here are very hostile, aggressive. i have not seen anything take anything and go. you ask them about the black boxes, they say it s not for us to deal with. we don t know anything about the black boxes. i wanted to ask you about the rebels if you had had any exchanges with them. when you say they re aggressive, how aggressively do you think they are trying to, dare i say, protect this area right now?
trees completely stripped, some 40, 50 feet up by big artillery shells. men hiding in these very shallow trenches. they ve obviously been anticipating and engaging in very heavy warfare. now you have a situation where there s no question that even in the worst of circumstances, christi and victor, you expect a certain level of dignity. it s not being met here. bodies are starting to be collected. some are still being missed. they re just being put in bags on the side of the road. these are not people they re local towns folk. not people who know how to do this. things like fuselage, so much for investigators. for them to look at and catalog and things have been disturbed here. things have been taken. the bodies are not getting the dignity they deserve. this is about, as troubled a set of circumstances as you can come upon here. the the ukrainian officials are air kuzing some of these pro-russian rebels of tampering with evidence, and the