they want the governor to say we have to be independent and stand on federal rights. this family has been grazing cattle since 1877. they re making a big issue about the tortoise issue. they said wait a second, the cattle has been grazing here. it s never affected the tortoise which is, of course, endangered out here in the desert. as a result this nothing more than an excuse for the federal government and blm not only to take over this land but other land in the west. there s a big solar power plant in the same desert a few miles away, but they moved the tortoises. is it seen that this endangered species tortoise is being used as a scapegoat or a reason for the bundies to pay up the million dollars that they owe? very good point. they did move tortoises from
are saying it is a tortoise issue. well, yes, they are saying it is, but the fact is you could graze his cows in a lot of different places. or they can move the tortoise. well, leaving that aside, there s a bigger issue here. what worries me is dana pointed it out on a small town like that on an afternoon, people out there working very hard. now you got the militia coming in. people feel strongly on this position. you ve got snipers. it would be a tragedy it happened, the governor of the state says he thinks the bureau of land management is wrong in this case and they should start to work with the rancher. andrea, there s a big solar plant in the nevada desert. because it s google and they are paying a lot of money for it,
they seem to work around the tortoise issue. the snow mobilers want to snow mobile, the end vier rows. the situation is spiraling out of control, don t make it about the turtle, which is such a dumb excuse. approach this man and say let s work with you. he is, as dana pointed out, 20 years, he has not paid his grazing fees, and again, i said this yesterday and i took some heat for it, but you can t just not pay your grazing fees if you don t agree with the law. it may be a silly law but get the law changed. i mean there s a law saying i can t go take a cow and make it my own personal cheeseburger, i can t just do that. he does have to follow the law and pay the fees as dumb as it is. what about native americans? there is some issues about giving them back land that they felt they were on before the
they seem to work around the tortoise issue. the snow mobilers want to snow mobile, the end vier rows. the situation is spiraling out of control, don t make it about the turtle, which is such a dumb excuse. approach this man and say let s work with you. he is, as dana pointed out, 20 years, he has not paid his grazing fees, and again, i said this yesterday and i took some heat for it, but you can t just not pay your grazing fees if you don t agree with the law. it may be a silly law but get the law changed. i mean there s a law saying i can t go take a cow and make it my own personal cheeseburger, i can t just do that. he does have to follow the law and pay the fees as dumb as it is. what about native americans? there is some issues about giving them back land that they felt they were on before the
are saying it is a tortoise issue. well, yes, they are saying it is, but the fact is you could graze his cows in a lot of different places. or they can move the tortoise. well, leaving that aside, there s a bigger issue here. what worries me is dana pointed it out on a small town like that on an afternoon, people out there working very hard. now you got the militia coming in. people feel strongly on this position. you ve got snipers. it would be a tragedy it happened, the governor of the state says he thinks the bureau of land management is wrong in this case and they should start to work with the rancher. andrea, there s a big solar plant in the nevada desert. because it s google and they are paying a lot of money for it,