Trump will surrender at and atlanta, georgia, jail. Why the fbi is now investigating the threats for the grand jurors who voted for his fourth indictment. We have breaking down all of the latest legal development. Classroom culture war. A new school year means new confusion for teachers over what they can and cannot teach. States like florida restricting lessons on race and sexuality. I will talk to a teacher who was so fed up, she quit. The grim reality of the postroe world. A 13yearold rape survivor forced to give birth after her state effectively outlawed abortion. The heartbreaking story that has galvanized the reproductive rights movement. All of that and more is coming up. We start this hour with new details on Donald Trumps fourth indictment. Nbc news has learned that Law Enforcement officials are now expecting the former president to surrender to a Fulton County jail no earlier than thursday of next week. Fulton county d. A. Fani willis as given trump, along with his 18 codefen
everywhere. and, alexander butterfield we, 49 years later, is going to join us here tonight. no way, really? to talk about what it is really like to be that star witness in that kind of presidential investigative hearing, in what is now the cassidy hutchinson role, and what we ve seen. he was subpoenaed, just like she was subpoenaed, and it was obviously, it s a unique experience, and a unique perspective to get on what we are watching, and what we will be watching tomorrow. i can t believe i went all day-to-day without knowing the butterfield will be on the show tonight. how come nobody came in and rang my bell about this. you are supposed to know immediately about this, these are not supposed to take you by surprise, i don t know what happened at the system. but it s really exciting, and we do have to reach back that 50 years, for people who actually have lived through things like this. yes, exactly right. and, arguably, what we ve learned from the january 6th com
with lawrence o donnell. good evening, lawrence. good evening, rachel. and i will see you tomorrow night, also on the panel discussion, and leitao will do the last word to 10 pm. i think tomorrow, rachel, the case about what happened in georgia it s gonna be clearer than ever to this country. and i long felt that that is where the clearest case of criminal conduct is to be found. i think that, i think that isim for the crime to happen on tape, and be released as soon as it happens, that should just be a new rule, that you have to crime on tape, and the tape has to be on tv that night. that helps, i think, in terms of this like, simple-ing it down so that we can all get it. you know, i ve listened to many hours of wired taps by the fbi investigations that they brought to court. and you know, you listen to the, what did he say, what did he mean, what was that. and he kind of mumbled that thing. there s a lot of interpretation that goes into it. they wire tap, and that s r
night, also on the panel discussion, and also i will do the last word to 10 pm. i think tomorrow, rachel, the case about what happened in georgia is gonna be clearer than ever to this country. and i long felt that that is where the clearest case of criminal conduct is to be found. i think that, i think that is true. i think it is also helpful when you re talking about any crime for the crime to happen on tape, and be released as soon as it happens, that should just be a new rule, that you have to crime on tape, and the tape has to be on tv that night. that helps, i think, in terms of this like, simple-ing it down so that we can all get it. you know, i ve listened to many hours of wired taps by the fbi investigations that they brought to court. and you know, you listen to the, what did he say, what did he mean, what was that. and he kind of mumbled that thing. there s a lot of interpretation that goes into it. they wire tap, and that s really what it is. they wiretap of do
operation. this is a great step. and, congratulations to the activists who have been pushing for this. and a congressional and executive-level for a long time. hats off to the biden white house. it s an amazing that appreciating president not call trump didn t do this. it s about time. good news. yes it is. thanks money,. think. thank you. president biden began his address to the nation tonight. on gun violence. with the report on what he found in his visit to uvalde. innocent victims, murdered in the classroom, that had been turned into a killing field. standing there and that small town, like so many other communities across america. i couldn t help but think, they are too many other schools, to many other everyday places, that have become killing fields. battlefields. here in america. tonight, president biden delivered the message to congress, and to the country, that he heard in uvalde. they had one message for all of us. do something. just do somethin