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trains moving. but it does seem like there s house republican caucus that doesn t want the trains to move instead, they want disaster. they want some sort of cataclysm. i think that s true, but do believe that if the senat were to pass something and sen it back to us, i think that th house would keep its, th democrats will keep our 21 votes together because we do not believe we should be playing with the full faith an credit of the united states of america. so, i think those 213 vote will be there, and i am sure there are at least five vote on the other side, not to do so, as well. i see, i see. that is the strategy for the democratic perspective something out of the senate, something that all democrats can vote for we will see. congressman james clyburn, thanks for making some time fo us tonight well, thank you very much for having me. still ahead, a court says this man, fox news benefacto and frequent guest, mike pillow, owns $5 million. the man who s looking to collect joins

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