but we also know that 702 has been very effective in this country and has saved lives. i ll give you an example, brian. in 2009 we learned about a plot using the authority of 702 to monitor a real bad guy, someone affiliated with al qaeda overseas which led us to a man in denver, fella named zasi whose intent was to blow up the new york city subway system. so, not only is it a source of information for the president in his daily briefing when he takes that, but it s also occasionally a source of information for the fbi and for law enforcement to save american lives. deb, at the other end of this story, the other consumer end where it affects your beat, how crazy did it get this morning? in effect, what did the president do with his cell phone in hand? well, covering surveillance law is a pretty tedious job in most days, but not so today. the intel community, the fbi
the fbi actually implement this new tweak in the law that says they have to get a warrant in certain very certain cases in communications. deb, you are setting up our next conversation for when we revisit this entire conversation. for now our thanks to chuck rosenberg, jeremy bash and deb for joining us tonight on this important topic after this wild day. coming up for us for the second time this week, president trump appeared to contradict his own white house policy. that when the 11th hour continues. in 5th grade. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn t stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that s why we ll always drive a subaru.
all of it, chuck rosenberg worked as counsel to mueller when he was fbi director, senior staff to comey, also a former u.s. attorney himself. former federal prosecutor currently an msnbc contributor. jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon who helped draft the original section 702. he s also an msnbc national security analyst. we also welcome to the broadcast tonight deb reit man, national security reporter for the associated press. so, jeremy, because you were present at the creation of this and one of the drafters, explain what a 702 is and make the case for it. it s an authority to conduct surveillance against foreigners outside the united states, take, for example, a terrorist in pakistan whose communications happen to traverse the united states. and when the fbi and the department of justice want to read that person s e-mail or understand what they re plotting against the united states, they can essentially conduct the surveillance without going to
that, but it s also occasionally a source of information for the fbi and for law enforcement to save american lives. deb, at the other end of this story, the other consumer end where it affects your beat, how crazy did it get this morning? in effect, what did the president do with his cell phone in hand? well, covering surveillance law is a pretty tedious job in most days, but not so today. the intel community, the fbi director, the head of the nsa, the cia director, they have all been out in public on a full core press trying to push this bill through. they wanted to push their version of the bill. they didn t get exactly what they wanted, but right down to the last wire here we were ready to have a vote, and then the tweets began and just threw the house in complete disarray. the ranking democrat on the house intel committee,
re-authorization, meaning there are no changes, just reup the existing law. they didn t get that. but the main thrust of the support for more restrictions was in the house, and the votes were really not expected to be in the senate. rand paul says he s going to filibuster anything that doesn t have strict protections. we have to see how that s going to play out. i think it s going to pass. people believe it s going to pass. the president said he s going to sign it. the question becomes how will the fbi actually implement this new tweak in the law that says they have to get a warrant in certain very certain cases in communications. deb, you are setting up our next conversation for when we revisit this entire conversation. for now our thanks to chuck rosenberg, jeremy bash and deb for joining us tonight on this important topic after this wild day.