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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151101:12:23:00

prepared to enter the disciplinary hearing. i m anxious. i m uncertain. i ve got confidence in my inmate adviser to bring out whatever best defense that i can have. higgins is basing ziggy s defense on a loophole having to do with his prior participation in a substance abuse program but ziggy s fate rests in the hands of lieutenant tommy vance. charged with refusing or attempting to alter drug test. how do you plead to the charge? mr. hall pleads not guilty as part of the policy for the substance abuse class, any drug testing is to be kept confidential so this issue is out of the area of disciplinary board. results should be kept confidential, is that what you re saying? yes, sir. that would be the case had mr. hall took the test. he didn t take the test. with his first line of

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151101:12:24:00

defense shot down, higgins pivots to explain s ziggy s actions. how many times have you been up for parole in the last 18 years? twice. what s happened each of those times? they continued me because of something i ve done. why would you purposely try to ditch your parole? because i m scared of getting out. if you didn t want to make parole, can you say i don t want to go? i don t know if you would understand but a convict saying that he s not ready to get out, i would feel like i would be ostraci ostracized. is that it? yes. the lieutenant s decision comes swiftly. guilty of the charge of refusal of attempt to alter a drug screen. assess a fee of $25.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150907:16:18:00

last 18 years? twice. what s happened each of those times? they ve continued me because of something i ve done. why would you purposely try to ditch your parole? because i m scared of getting out. you ve been at the program before? yes, sir. if you didn t want to make parole, could you say, i don t want to go? i don t know if you would understand, but a convict saying that he s not ready to get out, i d feel like i would be ostracized. is that it? yes, sir. the lieutenant s decision comes swiftly. guilty of the charge of refusal, attempt to alter a drug screen, recommend five days penal segregation, assess a fee of $25, $4 fine. recommend a job drop. you want to appeal this? yes, sir. yes, sir, i don t think the $25 is appropriate. i can suspend that. i will suspend the $25. okay. and richie would like a little time to get his affairs in order before he has to go away for five days.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150907:16:17:00

to bring out whatever and the best defense that i could have. higgins is basing ziggy s defense on a loophole having to do with his prior participation in a substance abuse program, but ziggy s fate rests in the judgment of the disciplinary board chairman, lieutenant tommy vance. mr. hall is charged with refusing or attempting to alter his drug test. how do you plead to the charge? guilty or not guilty? mr. hall pleads not guilty. as a part of the policy for the substance abuse class, any drug testing is to be kept confidential, so this issue is out of the area of the disciplinary board. results should be kept confidential. is that what you re saying? yes, sir. that would be the case had mr. hall took the test. he didn t take the test. with his first line of defense shot down, higgins pivots to explain ziggy s actions. richie, how many times have you been up for parole in the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150906:06:16:00

wow. and it became a defense mechanism, because in prison in this environment especially, if a person makes himself so easy, then those who prey on him don t it s too easy. it s no longer a challenge to them, so they leave him alone. the day after that interview, we met ziggy and higgins as they prepared to enter the disciplinary hearing. i m anxious. i m uncertain, but i ve got confidence in my inmate adviser to bring out whatever and the best defense that i could have. higgins is basing ziggy s defense on a loophole having to do with his prior participation in a substance abuse program, but ziggy s fate rests in the judgment of the disciplinary board chairman, lieutenant tommy vance. mr. hall is charged with refusing or attempting to alter his drug test. how do you plead to the charge?

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