dead. the news comes after an intense search effort since contact was lost shortly after departure on sunday. two debris fields found 1600 feet from the titanic remains. the senior correspondent mike tobin is in st. john s canada tonight. mike, good evening. trace, friends, family and fellow explorers were holding out hope for a miracle and learning today all hope is lost. u.s. coast guard announced that the submersible titanic was found in five major pieces as you mentioned 1600 feet off the bow of the wreckage of the titanic itself. the pilot and passengers are all lost. the debris is consistent with a catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber. upon this determination, we immediately notified the families. stockton rush chief executive of oceangate was the pilot. passengers were hamish harding. a businessman. he lived for the adventure. will are suleman and a veteran of 35 titanic dives. larry daily was a close friend of natural gas lay according to say what they are
trace? trace: mike tobin live for us on scene. thank you. let s bring in the president and ceo of imagine exhibitions and dakota woods senior research fellow at the heritage foundation and former strategist for the marine corps special operations command. tom, your signal is coming in and out. we ghoul first on this. the breaking news, the wall street journal reporting that in fact deep seek or the u.s. navy acoustic detection system heard this implosion really right after they lost contact with the sub. what do you think about that? well, i think many people who are familiar with diving to that depth and have heard parts of the story line over the course of the last week thought that if something would have happened catastrophically, it would have happened at that point. but i think everybody has been so hopeful this whole week because of, you know, the five lives that were lost. nobody wanted to see that happen. so, hearing that information, it
information is coming out. trace: back to you tom zol larr, i m wondering if we believe this was milliseconds this catastrophic explosions mill will he seconds the debris fields are pretty vast. as you drop into the abyss, tom, and darker and darker it s just a free fall. is that a fair assessment of what is happening as you go down? yeah, exactly what it s called, too. the idea is that you are conserving energy the submersible tends to free fall in a spiral rotation as you descend to whatever depth that may be and you are conserving your battery power for when you are on the ground. you know whatever level you are at. incredibly dark except for lights inside the capsule. there is no light darkest of the dark. quite cold. that was one of my fears from the guys down there this week was, you know, i know that the
wreck. when i was there on the ship, i would watch the subgo down each day and then come back each day and it gave maybe for a novice a sense of security. but, you know, you know when you get you know when you get inside a submersible like that and you go to that depth, you have to know the risk. i think that i didn t know the other gentleman and his son. but they were extremely successful people who probably took a lot of risks in their lives to get to the place they did. and they were explorers like like why are talking about. tom and dakota, thank you. we will have more on this as the show goes on. great. thanks. thank you, guys. trace: meantime, we are learning new information tonight from the whistleblowers who contend hunter biden received preferential treatment during the irs investigation into his tax affairs. correspondent david spunt has the details tonight from the justice department.
makes a lot of sense because of where they were. i m not an expert. i just was holding out hope for all those passengers. trace: i know you are not an expert, tom, but you have actually been down there on a different vessel, i wonder, as you are going down, can you give us a feel for what it s like? you have talked before about the immense pressure. can you feel the pressure going down there, tom? you know how you are in an airplane you can feel the pressure in your ears? can you feel the immense pressure bearing down on these vessels as you get closer to titanic? no. you are in my sub is a mirror submersible you are inside of a pressure sphere. so the pressure is the same on the ground up on the surface as it is down below. there is no change in pressure. and the same although i m not familiar with the titan and all the technology. there would be no decompression. the pressure you are dealing with, when you think about it, it s 6,000 pounds per square