referred to this reporting that papadopoulos is just a small part of the mueller investigation. let s listen to what she said about it. maybe his references in looking more to come between the democrats and the clinton campaign since i think if there is any evidence that we ve seen to date it s between them colluding with other foreign governments, certainly not from our side. right, i guess, tom that s one interpretation. that s probably not really the interpretation of mueller s investigation. in this 51-page court transcript. this was tied to his it was held in secret. the judge closed the courtroom meaning no members of the public could go into it. they had a closed and a secret plea hearing. in that hearing there was a discussion involving federal protors in the defense. they were talking over legal tech any calculates i won t get into here but in that the prosecutor aaron za listenski said this is a small part of a
there he is, also the president said he didn t think it was important enough to have a special counsel to investigate the irs. i find that very interesting. brian: talked to senator manchin and he said this reminds him of the epa. he said coal companies that he represents in west virginia, they ve also been targeted with an aggressive regulatory regulation. i think that s why this thing could get a lot bigger. the irs, epa, it seems very similar. steve: you know what? you ve got debt and taxes now under the same umbrella of sorts. meanwhile, it s interesting because there is a guy who runs umbrella group for over 200 tea party organizations out in ohio. he says that big media has actually apologized to him. his name is tom. he coordinated for 233 tea party
groups in ohio. he tried orgeat the media interested in, hey, do you know the irs is targeting my organization? he s been trying to get them interested for a couple of years. they say, tom that, is too over the top and now a big newspaper and a big other news entity have actually apologized for not taking him seriously. that s fantastic. a little late, but still fantastic. brian: those organization, they re still going to get sued. this is going to be the story of the next few weeks. all these organizations that said we never could get on track, it s been nine months of harrowing and costly follow-ups with the irs, they re going to turn around and get an attorney and they re going to sue the irs. basically we finance the irs, so we re ultimately going to be paying for it. gretchen: the overarching theme is what kind of organizations were not allowed to coalesce as a result of not being able to get 501 c 4 status, because was that a direct effort to keep the tea