strangers in the place they live, and to make the people who hate immigrants and love donald trump feel good. joining me now, tom saenz, president and general counsel of the mexican legal defense and education fund which sued the trump administration over the citizenship question. it was one of two suits, this one based in maryland. thomas, your reaction to the president s decision today. well, it s a little late. he is ten days behind his lawyers who told us at the beginning of the month that they would move forward with census 2020 without a citizenship question. but it s certainly a victory. a victory if it sticks. we want to make sure that this is a final decision that cannot be reversed at any point in the future. but if it is a final decision and we can get a quarter that prevents it from being reversed, it s a great victory. what is the if? i hear some hesitancy in your voice. well, as you know, we ve gone through ten days of a purported reversal. we want to make sure this
experts were cleared it would lead to an undercount. and now the president wants to look for other data. i m not sure what he is going to do. but that raise as whole host of issues related to privacy, security of that data, and some of that data was given to agencies for one purpose, and it may be transferred to another purpose, and that is certainly something that the american people didn t bargain for. let me ask you a question i asked thomas saenz at the time of this. do you view this as part of a larger political project to essentially reduce the political potency of constituencies, particularly immigrant and immigrant adjacent constituencies that are not favorable to trump or the republican party? yes. i think there is and it was clear. that s what happened in the
trump raged and hemmed and hawed and tried to find some other way around the supreme court. but today, usually, he didn t. but here s the thing. trump may have lost in the substance, but his anti-immigrant rhetoric will continue to have a chilling effect. that has been the aspect of trumpism from day one. he has worked to scapegoat and vilify immigrants and frankly scare the hell out of them. we re learning on sunday the administration plans or says it plans to conduct mass immigration raids on at least 2,000 families across the united states. you might think the administration would want to keep such raids quiet to maintain an element of surprise, but the raids themselves are entirely the point. the point is to make people feel scared and alienated, and like strangers in the place they live, and to make the people who hate immigrants and love donald trump feel good. joining me now, tom saenz, president and general counsel of the mexican legal defense and education fund which sued the
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