it all came together for kratz. he believes avery developed a deep resentment of women, which had started with his wrongful conviction, and had only grown over the years. he has no remorse for his behavior, feels incredibly entitled. but as he continued to investigate the case, kratz had a problem. you didn t know how she was killed, exactly where she was killed. was that bothering you? yes, but sometimes you have what you have. it was all coming together in bits and pieces. he and his team kept digging until they got a big lead. let s have a seat. and march, 2006, four months after teresa s murder, tom fassbender and his partner mark wiegert spoke with a very 16 year old nephew, brandon dassey in a series of no highly scrutinized interviews. what was your first impression of brendan dassey? he s shy. somewhat introverted. but once he opened up, the
wanted him to say. don t lie to us now, okay? come on. what happened? we re just hurting yourself if you lie now. it s got severe warning disabilities, an ability to respond in a narrative type answers. and they re in precisely the areas that make him vulnerable to the kind of tactics the police officers used in this case. the attorneys say the investigators manipulated dassey with coaxing statements like these from fassbender, i was seated just off camera. i m your friend right now. it s all right. you are doing the right thing. they should never have made those kinds of suggestions that they wanted to comfort him. that all would be well. those kinds of tactics when used on a kid like brendan dassey are a recipe for false confessions. and they say the investigators manipulation of the teen escalated far beyond simple coaxing. the officers needed brendan
tirelessly to free them from prison, we pose the questions everyone has been asking to two men who helped put avery and dassey behind bars. why would steven avery do this? great question. we speak with former prosecutor can kratz who s written a book which reveals his provocative theory. that steven avery made himself a murderer. stephen avery started planning this event the very first day he went to prison. and we talk with tom fassbender a lead investigator in the case who is come under fire for this controversial interrogation. you ve stayed silent for this firestorm. why are you sitting here today? realized that someone needed to speak out, to bring forward the truth of what happened. so, what did happen here? our story begins with a woman at the heart of this case, a 25-year-old photographer from wisconsin named teresa halbach.
details he revealed would stun investigators. what else did he do to her? raped her. did he tell you that? fassbender says dassey described a brutal scene. on that halloween afternoon, it s uncle asked him to come to his trailer. dassey said they each sexually assaulted teresa and avery s bedroom and avery later shot her in his garage, burning her body in the bonfire. it s a game-changer. he told the stuff we weren t aware of. like teresa was shot in the garage. and died there. after speaking with dassey, fassbender had his team return to the avery property once more. and they found this in his garage, a bullet fragment. that was missed the first time? i guess i could say it was missed, but you re talking about bullet fragments, a bullet fragment looks like a piece of dirt, possibly. it was tested? it was tested, yes. her dna was on that boat and the boat was shot from stevens
most interesting because family members told investigators that stephen avery had built a bonfire hours after teresa had been at the yard that day. it was a huge bond fire, flames going as high as the edge of the roof of the garage. was it making sense to you? looking at the whole picture? absolutely. and that picture came into sharper focus one fassbender s team found another clue. teresa s key inside avery s bedroom. the toyota key with a little fog connected to it. this is huge. yes, it s huge. especially when the crime lab later found avery s dna on it. it would become a highly controversial clue in this case. the evidence was stacking up against steven avery, and fassbender says that wisconsin rav4 rav4 would later tell investigators one last thing. we tested the hot and found dna matching stephen on the hood latch. fassbender believed avery had some explaining to do. nine days after teresa s