and out for himself. and he s been out for himself and he was in debt millions of dollars to some of those people. i think the question here is one of motivation, was manafort trying to show these people he was close to trump and therefore could give them access? that would suggest manafort was, as you say, out for himself, or was he doing it in order to try to give the gru information they could use in a social immediate ka campaign with a little intention? that might suggest there was a broader concept in the campaign of wanting to clud with tollude russians and did trump know about it? given manafort s own past record on this and his often past of looking out for himself and trying to look out for himself, not perhaps very well, i don t think we can assume from this trump knew and there was some coordinated effort to give the gru information. and perhaps the republicans had leverage over paul manafort as well. congressman costello, can we talk briefly about the political impli