do you see that playing into the hearing today? i absolutely see it s going to play in. i think it goes beyond that. there are certainly going to be questions she has toa answer. there are also going to be questions about what that money promoted. it promoted a privatized education system instead of promoting a public education system. she seems to have the numbers to get through. is this about sending a message and stopping her nomination? we have to lift up the message that public schools are worth defending, title 9 is worth defending on campuses, these are issues that we have to absolutely make sure that any nominee and certainly betsy devos with her track record is accountable to. mary cathryn ricker, thank you. thanks for having me here