question because we don t subpoena targets of investigations. you will notice in this back and forth we are not talking about a subpoena, we are talking about a voluntary interview. we do interview targets, but we don t subpoena them to the grand jury. so if he ever becomes a target, he would not get a subpoena. so he said in the past that the special counsel told him and the president that he is not a target. are you saying that might change? of course. it could change any time. of course. a, it could change any time, and b, giuliani doesn t have much of a commitment to the truth as well. cynthia, we have some new reporting that robert mueller wants to interview emin agalarov, that pop star who has connections to the president, the one that performed at donald trump s moscow pageant. also the one that had connections to the kremlin-linked lawyer natalia veselnitskaya, and that june 9th meeting in 2016 where she was offering dirt on hillary
it isn t really the prosecutor s style to negotiate this way. after all, he is the president of the united states. i have an alternative theory, and that is that certainly giuliani and all of the lawyers, every lawyer would say the president of the united states is, you know, lies all the time, so he should not be in the same room with an fbi agent and experienced prosecutor, but it may be very well that trump is saying he wants to come to something and then it comes out in the end like, oh, i really wanted to, i really wanted to, but giuliani wouldn t let me so he could make an argument that he wanted to do it but he doesn t have to do anything. you are saying to say he wants to save face here? yeah, looking for a way to save face, and at the same time mueller s team doesn t want it to look like he didn t give the president an opportunity to tell his side of the story. what are the chances mueller s team would follow up with a subpoena if this interview never actually happens?
and there are those that would argue that because that s happening, what has resulted is an effective strategy among republicans to push a very conservative agenda. is it helping to have a president who always says, look over here. this is what elections are for, right? we had a liberal democratic president for eight years and he has been succeeded by a president governing and doing things as a conservative republican. the first two years of obama s presidency he passed a $1 trillion stimulus, he passed obamacare, he passed dodd-frank, he partially trump comes in, and that s with a democratic house and senate and trump comes in and does conservative things. this is the way it s supposed to be. what s different is mueller. what s different is the russia probe. what s different is the tweets, the fact that vit the vit rèal.
trump s legal team ruedy giuliai says they cannot bring charges against the president. they know they don t have that power, so their function is to write a report. we would like to be the first the fairest report possible but even if it isn t we re prepared to rebut it in great detail so we d like them to do it giuliani told the washington post that mueller was quote, coy, when discussing an indictment quote, he didn t seem to want to give the answer. one of his assistants broke in said well, of course we re bound by justice department policies. mueller looked at the assistant to say don t interrupt me. giuliani said they confirmed they would not indict in a call a day or two later. on fox news last night giuliani said he would not give much credence to a negative report from bob mueller. there s no reason for this investigation. there wagner wnever was a good
and his twitter messages and what you just heard from rudy giuliani is certainly playing a role in his base. we have seen public polling dip a bit in terms of whether people still have confidence in the mueller probe. it is a majority. 64% down from 60%. when you re saying you re speaking of voters outside of washington as to what they feel is the legitimacy of the mueller probe, are they more coming from his base or who are you speaking to exactly? well, it s interesting because i ve been out in iowa and some of the states where we re having competitive senate elections and the most common reaction you get from voters is i just don t know. they re more interested in some of the policy debates that are coming out of washington, but it was interesting my colleague was just at a focus group that took place in wisconsin and what they found was across the board, both trump voters and clinton voters saying politically it would be a mistake on the part of the president to fire robert mue