yeah, totally and utterly. but. and have you been frightened off entering this territory at times? again, i think it s framed brilliantly. fortunately for me, or unfortunately, when i m afraid of something, i have to run towards it. stephen chuckles i don t call that a virtue, but it is fact for me. without a shadow of a doubt, even producing the play that s on at the young vic now, beneatha s place, i was worried for a while. i was worried that those of the right or even those of the left might come after me for some of the statements or some of the debates that the play wishes to catalyse. but i m an artist. we re here to do nothing but catalyse. i can t run in fearfrom people trying to counsel you or use. ..use your work as an agenda for theirs. i want to talk more about beneatha s place, because i was lucky enough to see it just a night or two ago. so i do want to talk about it
themselves into the hearts of themselves into the hearts of the populace. themselves into the hearts of the pepulace- themselves into the hearts of the populace. those issues you outlined, race, the populace. those issues you outlined, race, immigration, i outlined, race, immigration, they are central to your work because they are central to your own life story.- your own life story. totally and utterly. your own life story. totally and utterly. have - your own life story. totally and utterly. have you - your own life story. totally and utterly. have you be i and utterly. have you be frightened and utterly. have you be frightened of and utterly. have you be frightened of entering i and utterly. have you be i frightened of entering this territory at times?- frightened of entering this territory at times? again, i think that territory at times? again, i think that is territory at times? again, i think that is framed - think that is framed brilliantly. fortunately for me, or
what it is i think they are saying, or what i think the land that they stand upon, what validity does it have? so, yes, kwame does have sorry to speak about himself in the third person does have his own political views. as a playwright, i have a point that i wish to catalyse, but it has to be fair and almost democratic. kwame, you call yourself. i know. ..and of course you are kwame. but you were, as a kid, raised as ian ian roberts in west london, in southall a racially, ethnically very mixed part of london, which at the time, in the 70s and 80s, was the scene of racist violence. yes. ..of real racial tension. yes. to what extent has that shaped you? very much so. it hasn t defined me, i hope, but it has shaped me. i remember my father taking me to the tip of our street at the time i think it was in 1979 and a pub called the