conversations that hutchinson had in her very last deposition. we know the contents of that last deposition is likely the number one time factor that spurred the panel to bring her in so quickly for basically an emergency hearing with only 24 hours notice. spokesperson for meadows provided the following statement to politico and betsy. no one from meadows camp, himself or otherwise, attempted to shape ms. hutchinson s testimony to the committee. any phone message is, at best, deeply misleading. that s from the meadows camp. betsy, who are we talking about? you re in the going to give up sources, and i understand that, but who are the potential group of people who would put the pressure to cassidy? obviously, she is close with everybody in meadows world. she was as close as you can be in terms of being an aide. who are the kinds of people who would want her toreconsider
trump, trying to influence or intimidate them. three sources familiar with the committee s work tell cnn one of the people contacted was cassidy hutchinson, the former aide to chief of staff mark meadows who testified tuesday. national correspondent for politico, betsy woodrow swan, broke the story and joins us now. also with us, hugo lowell, who has new investigation on the reporting. betsy, what can you tell us about the possible obstruction and the threats, if you want to put it that way, to cassidy hutchinson and others? in the closing minutes of this hearing, the select committee put up two different slides on the big screen at the front of the hearing room. both described communications that had been issued by people in trump world that appear to be attempts to influence witness testimony. what i can confirm is that those slides were both based on testimony that hutchinson provided behind closed doors in