crews that turn up there. 38 now confirmed dead. you can see just a mangled wreckage of what s left of that bus. among the casualties, sadly, several children. we still haven t got final figures on that. about ten people survived. we still don t know exactly what happened. they re investigating possible brake failure. it hit a number of cars before it fell off that bridge. it may have been a tire blowout as well. chris? thank you very much, dan. we go from one group of church folks in avellino, italy, to another in indianapolis. investigators trying to figure out what caused a church bus to crash over the weekend. three people killed, including a youth pastor and his wife. christine romans with the latest. that youth pastor and his wife expecting a baby next month. their 2-year-old survived. this bus was filled with mainly teenagers returning home from church camp. we re hearing from church members as they grieve for those