comment when reached by nbc news. joe, this is pretty big news. it really is. jon heilemann, a guess the question is, why paul manafort hasn t been in jail from the very beginning. donald trump s claims nof collusion every day, 12 times a day. may be a bit more believable if he wrote no collusion parentheses, oth tn manafort. you can look at public records and you can see very clearly that paul manafort spent his adult lifeluding and consorting with and making calculated political decisions with russia and russia s allies. this is very big news, and i m just wondering, since this is the biggest domino to fall in the russian part of the case, why doesn t paul manafort get sent to jail? well, i think there s a reasonable chance that he will. except for the possibility they may end up deciding to cooperate