july, wages overall in trump administration despite his promise to raise them had been stagnant. gillian: i want to stop you right there for a second, i get that you don t want to go back in time and rehash the past, but the biden point is an important one that s not just about what happened, it s about what could ultimately happen just a few months from now if he becomes the candidate and facing off president trump in a general election, this highlight it is idea that he might have to do and say some things that make him uncomfortable, he might have to fight dirty, he doesn t really like to do, he will have to come out of his shell, no? i think he has to take the debate to donald trump but i think that s true for every democratic candidate right now who is going to be on the debate stage, biden, the number one thing he can do assort of leading the pack right now, the last rcp poll had him up over the nearest competitor elizabeth warren by 4, over sanders by 12, he s got to stay elev
in iowa a third of the counties went obama, obama, trump. we have to have somebody at the top of the ticket that can win back the place that is we lost. gillian: if you re to a certain point, governor, it becomes clear that you re really not going the distance, you re going to have to think about your next step. howard schultz dropped out this week, as you know. he talked a lot about his reasoning being he didn t want to risk becoming a spoiler for whoever the frontrunner is, whether it s biden, sanders, whoever. do you worry about that? i missed part of that because the background noise. gillian: yes, well, governor, do you wear about becoming a spoiler? and we will have good people in that race. i i ll do all that i can to make sure they re elected. for me it wasn t an either/or
for the democratic party in chosings and choosing and collecting one person. gillian: isaac buzzfeed article with headline that said that biden advised hillary clinton s team in 2016 not to debate with donald trump over the access hollywood tape. if we can rewind here and go back 2 years, do you think that was the right advice to take? i don t know, i think democrats need to stop looking in the rear-view mirror, we need to look forward to how we beat donald trump, we have a tremendous opportunity as democrats in the debate, for the candidates not as much this time as in past debates to contrast themselves with each other but to contrast themselves with donald trump. i agree with marcus comment about the economy is a major issue, we need to talk about especially after the job s report this past week and the not hitting the mark falling short of expectations on jobs with real wages declining in
presidential candidates, he ll be addressing this convention later this in the afternoon. montana governor, steve block. governor, that s quite a crowd you have behind us. thanks for taking time out with us this afternoon. we appreciate it. yeah, it s great to be with you, gillian. gillian: governor, political analysts this week are starting to talk about an obscurity gap that s facing the candidates. they re saying the top tier, warren, sanders, biden, kamala harris says she s part of it and then there s everybody else. are you feeling that as you go about your day-to-day wrangling on the campaign trail? are you feeling the lag? yeah, what i m feeling, gillian, like here in new hampshire, 157 days before they actually address their preference. so a long way to go and what i m hearing, too, is like we ve got to get on to that election and
hong kong police clashing with prodemocracy protesters again today, demonstrators taking to the streets even after the government said it will suspend the bill that kicked off all of this unrest more than 3 months ago, jonathan hunt live in hong kong, middle of the night there, jonathan, thanks for staying up with us. gillian, of course, cameraman james and i were at the heart of some intense clashes on the streets of hong kong tonight, very aggressive tactics used by the police, but very different to what they ve done before, no teargas fired tonight at least where we were, no rubber bullets fired, instead they charged the protesters to scatter them, charged very aggressive, very distinct change in tactics and perhaps came about with some outside help, listen here.