now, let me go to somebody who can actually make the point by himself. oh. jonas, history jonas? we don t have five minutes. history shows us this could be a broad problem. yes, i m still trying to let it be clear that chrysler makes money selling cars, i wasn t aware they made money selling cars and hence the massive government bailouts they got. and wouldn t have two car companies we have if it wasn t for government support in our industry. now, they support all of their dozen crumby car companies, too, tit for tat. and these tend to escalate at the economy slows. and it s getting ugly and we mentioned the tire thing and what happened in the depression and caused it to linger, countries are concerned and slow down and hurts the economy. and it d be nice to stop the tariff stuff they ve done more than we have. but we re as bad as we are in many ways with the auto