convention in july in the situation that donald trump is found guilty on any of these felony charges and wins the nomination at the same time because, you know, we re talking about nikki haley and ron desantis approach toward donald trump. there is a reality either donald trump could be kicked off the ballot or head to the convention here this summer with a criminal conviction next to his name. and there could be a situation in which there is a real serious conversation at the republican national convention of releasing the delegates and turning to trump alternative and those are going to be tough questions that ron desantis and nikki haley may very well face if they come up with a loss during the actual political primary and caucus process. vaughn hillyard, when you were in the southwest, i remind you to wear your sunscreen out there. i hope you have a hat and a scarf. all of the above. all of the above. a quick break from us. we ll be right back. ll of the a.
aren t any different hereto. it feels like i have been covering the campaign for the last year. it was the matter of jockeying for fourth, third, second place. right now there s a reality on the ground that nikki haley and ron desantis, they do not have this type of energy around their candidaies here in iowa that you feel like palpable excitement and potential of knocking off donald trump. this is my third election cycle. i was there covering bernie sanders when you could feel the hundreds to thousands of people that were coming out for his events when he came really close to beating hillary clinton in the state. iowans, when he was packing diners across the state of iowa, that s not this. so for donald trump, i think it s indicative you don t see much of him out horror now because frankly he feels good about his standing. here s chris christie from this morning talking about the two main challengers haley and desantis. and where this race is regarding trump s challengers. take a li
here is that you have a lot of republicans in this party staying on truths and they re being treated in a more of a sort of two sidesish way, the mainstream media tends to. and so that is a real structural disadvantage for democrats. at least for the democrats like the biden administration that really are sort of held by the truth. remember, trump always would say, you know, these incredible lies and people got used to it. you would never it is hard to say trump was saying something untrue because it was so usual. and so he has really lowered the bar for himself in a certain way. and so you do see that biden ends up being way more scrutinized than trump because of this. i do think it is a structural disadvantage for the biden administration, but i agree there is a lot to brag about economically and i hope that they ll be able to effectively do it. all right, as nicolle would say, lucky for us, no one is going anywhere. when we return, nbc news can now
remors for his part, epps sent a letter to the court writing he, quote, learned not to put my trust in politicians, fox news, some other social media outlets, only to have them betray me and other american citizens with election lies. up next, how president joe biden plans to go on the offense against donald trump as he puts his re-election campaign into focus, much more news straight ahead. do not go anywhere. h more news t ahead. do not go anywhere
it has been destroyed. i think those hopes have evaporated. a trump 2.0 administration would be far more aggressive, would not have the kinds of adults in the room who restrain donald trump. and donald trump has made it absolutely clear. there is no subtlety or ambiguity about what he would do once he got the levers of power, that the second trump administration would be about retribution, would be about revenge, would be about tearing down many of the constitutional norms that turned out to be far more fragile than i m afraid that we had been complacent about. mply a statement of the nk, is reality that we f in 2024. rick, i want to reach the last lines of the bulwark piece. they write, january 6th it turns out was a rehearsal for the true upheaval, the far deeper insurrection that trump now intends to lead if re-elected. january 6th was prologue. the election of 2024 will be the decisive drama on the main