of the watergate information had not spilled out into the public. so when rudy giuliani goes on tv and says that and when donald trump is saying that, they are literally ripping a page out of the nixonian coverup play book, you would think they would be smarter than that but they aren t. it echoes so much of 1973 that it s frightening. joe, you re right. unfortunately for us today, for the country today, there s no tip o neill tunnel who would go to carl albert, then the speaker of the house, and basically force him into having hearings. that was 1973 but both you and michael avenatti have been talking about there s always a b b story to an a story. the a story is the trump tweets and behavior. but the b story is the attempt to destroy institutions of this country. i mean, the justice department,
have ronnie reagan to worry about, you ll have tip o neill tunnel to worry about. got up, walked out. they didn t say a thing. he put america first. that was a speaker being a speaker. and so when i hear paul ryan s people saying that he doesn t have that power, that is just not true. this committee is the place where america s biggest secrets were going to be held and the responsibility given to members of the house and senate intelligence committees is unique and to see it become this partisan war that natasha has described breaks something that was really important to congress. you cite the kind of baseline for it, people like tip o neill tunnel who said we ll do the nation s business together. that just blew up. he s not wishy-washy. and there were so many times when newt gingrich, i had so many problems with newt gingrich, but when he was speaker of the house there were times, especially on foreign
reagan s friend chip after the tragedy in beirut in 19282/83. i was there that day. i was in the embassy that day. wow. well, when the news that day hit washington, d.c., richard reid writes about it in his reagan book. tip o neill tunnel called all the democrats to hc-5 and they all sat there and they were sure that this tough liberal speaker was going to be giving them talking points on how to attack the republican policy that obviously turned into this abject failure and cost the lives of 240-plus americans. instead, tip o neill tunnel went up to the podium and he said ladies and gentlemen, today we re not democrats. today we re americans. and if any democrat criticizes the commander in chief before i tell you you can criticize the commander-in-chief you won t
he can ask nunes to step down from this investigation, to completely recuse himself, even to leave as the chairman of the house intel committee and he never did. could he have literally taken him off the committee as speaker of the house? yes. he could have just called him in. you see this happening from time to time, say mr. chairman, if you want to remain as chairman, stop. well, what we saw instead is that paul ryan sided with devin nunes in a lot of these fights between the fbi what is going on with him? why. that s kind of to be expected because paul ryan is always going to be on the side of the committee, he s always going to be on the side of the house in these fights with doj and fbi in favor of more but that s my point. the speaker of the house has to protect the institutions of the house at some point. this is crazy. one of my favorite stories, david, that mika has had to hear a thousand times had to do with tip o neill tunnel and ronald
for a number of positions. brooke? sunlen, thank you. from trump tower to the vice president-elect mike pence just having met with the leader of the democrats there on capitol hill, nancy pelosi, let s eavesdrop. we had a straightforward consideration about how we can work together on infrastructure, issues that relate to child care and the rest, following up on a conversation i had with the president-elect last week. i was honored to show the vice president-elect a picture of the bush family that we treasure, president george herbert walker bush participating in his points of light conference in houston. i did that to make you feel at home in the office of tip o neill tunnel surrounded by franklin roosevelt and john f. kennedy and george herbert walker bush. we had a respectful conversation as you all know, those of us who