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they were poor, and they were facing violence. the idea that that is somehow better because they were all living in the same house. well, joy, listen, we need to continue the conversation, quite obviously, my friend. there s a lot to unpack and that interview. thank you so much for joining me tonight. that is our show. over to lawrence o donnell, with the last word. good evening, lawrence. good evening, alex. glenn kershner is going to join us tonight because glenn kershner had the pleasure of being in the courtroom today when steve bannon got his report to prison date. so we will have the pleasure of hearing from glenn kershner how that went today. front-row seat to bannon s departure from the big house. i am eager to hear the caller. i am, too. thanks, alex. thank you. he wasn t the most important person there. the president of the united states is usually the most important person in the room or the most important person in the stadium, or the most important pers

i pray for you. thank you so much. leading off our discussion on this day of reliving history is timothy saada, professor of history at yale university. he is the author of two books on the second world war, bloodlines, europe between hitler and stalin and black earth, the holocaust as history and warning. thank you very much for joining us tonight. we heard president biden say we will never forget. there are republicans, donald trump among them, who have not forgotten what they never knew, it seems that there is no evidence at all that donald trump even knows what victory in europe meant and what the pledge was made after that, to hold the peace in europe. the president is certainly right, that democracy is something that demands

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