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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 04:46:00

she said, frankly, there aren t enough good female roles, particularly roles that can be played through your career. and she said, i ve done shakespeare, but frankly, there s only so much a woman can get out of shakespeare. she did brilliantly reconceive richard ii, you see. and that was one of the very first successful pieces of regendering. so take timon of athens, 0k? timon of athens, a great. i mean, timon has 30% of the roles. this great. this great wealthy guy who loses all his money and becomes a misanthrope. well, we did a production with kathryn hunter playing timon, and there was no. there was no problem at all because timon isn t defined by his gender, he s defined by his situation, and therefore it worked. now, some people don t like it. do you think you leave some people behind when you do this? yeah. probably we do, but also we bring others along with us. and how far do you take it? you referenced arthur hughes, who is getting rave reviews for playing richard iii. and as

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 02:46:00

of doing it. what we re trying to do is to reflect the society we are in, and whether that s to do with disability, ethnicity, gender. that s terribly difficult, isn t it? well, let s take gender. arguably, that s even more difficult in shakespeare, because he wrote at a time when, frankly, actors were all men. yeah. so he did limit the number of women. he did, he did. ..that he wrote about. i mean, one of the great actors of our time, fiona shaw, expressed a real serious frustration with shakespeare. she said, frankly, there aren t enough good female roles, particularly roles that can be played through your career. and she said, i ve done shakespeare, but frankly, i m bored with it. yeah. there s only so much a woman can get out of shakespeare. she did brilliantly reconceive richard ii, you see. and that was one of the very first successful pieces of regendering. so take timon of athens, 0k? timon of athens, a great. i mean, timon has 30% of the roles. this great. this great wealth

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 14:46:00

particularly roles that can be played through your career. and she said, i ve done shakespeare, but frankly, i m bored with it. yeah. there s only so much a woman can get out of shakespeare. she did brilliantly reconceive richard ii, you see. and that was one of the very first successful pieces of regendering. so take timon of athens, 0k? timon of athens, a great. i mean, timon has 30% of the roles. this great. this great wealthy guy who loses all his money and becomes a misanthrope. well, we did a production with kathryn hunter playing timon, and there was no. there was no problem at all because timon isn t defined by his gender, he s defined by his situation, and therefore it worked. now, some people don t like it. do you think you leave some people behind when you do this? yeah. probably we do, but also we bring others along with us. and how far do you take it? you referenced arthur hughes, who is getting rave reviews

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 14:48:00

he did, he did. ..that he wrote about. i mean, one of the great actors of our time, fiona shaw, expressed a real serious frustration with shakespeare. she said, frankly, there aren t enough good female roles, particularly roles that can be played through your career. and she said, i ve done shakespeare, but frankly, i m bored with it. yeah. there s only so much a woman can get out of shakespeare. she did brilliantly reconceive richard ii, you see. and that was one of the very first successful pieces of regendering. so, take timon of athens, 0k? timon of athens, a great. i mean, timon has 30% of the roles. this great. this great wealthy guy who loses all his money and becomes a misanthrope. well, we did a production with kathryn hunter playing timon, and there was no. there was no problem at all because timon isn t defined by his gender, he s defined by his situation, and therefore it worked.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 03:46:00

played through your career. and she said, i ve done shakespeare, but frankly, i m bored with it. yeah. there s only so much a woman can get out of shakespeare. she did brilliantly reconceive richard ii, you see. and that was one of the very first successful pieces of regendering. so, take timon of athens, 0k? timon of athens, a great. i mean, timon has 30% of the roles. this great. this great wealthy guy who loses all his money and becomes a misanthrope. well, we did a production with kathryn hunter playing timon, and there was no. there was no problem at all because timon isn t defined by his gender, he s defined by his situation, and therefore it worked. now, some people don t like it. do you think you leave some people behind when you do this? yeah. probably we do, but also, we bring others along with us. and how far do you take it? you referenced arthur hughes,

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