deposition he was caught up in a lawsuit that was going bad. he was suing his biographer because he didn t like what ended up in the biography. and in the course of the lawsuit the biographer incidentally reporter tim o brien who was a guest on our show saying that tim o brien told him during the course of the conversations, he said over and over again he was tape-recording their conversations. in the course of the lawsuit trump gets asked about that under oath on the record in an official deposition. mr. trump, you told tim o brian over and over again that you were tape recording your conversations with him. did you actually tape-record those conversations? and despite all of the times that he priestly said it, when he had to answer that question at risk of perjury, the future president said i just wanted him to think i was recording him. of course i didn t actually record him. tapes? what tapes? i m not equipped to tape anybody. who tapes people? [ laughs ]