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sports slammed it. other states and cities banned official travel to indiana because of it. and just look at the front page of today s indianapolis star. fix this now. governor pence couldn t ignore this backlash but this fight has exposed how some of the biggest names on the right, including many gop presidential candidates, are standing on the wrong side of history and public opinion. joining me now is indiana s democratic leader in the state senate tim lannen and chicago tribune columnist clarence page. thank you both for being here. glad to be here. thank you, reverend. senator. you want today you re still disappointed in the governor. why?
discrimination, but that does not pass the test, if you ask the ceo of apple or indiana businesses who provide a huge amount of money and support for the state of indiana. margaret, on the fix, on the breaking news we have right now and what he is asking the legislature to push forth, do you think that is a step in the right direction, or do you think this is lip service? he did not say anything specific that will actually protect lgbt americans from discrimination. margaret hoover, thanks so much. i want to go to the senate democratic leader in the state of indiana. tim lannen joining us right now. thank you for being with us. thank you for having me. do you have any sense yet what the measure might be to work its way through the assembly right there that might fix this perception problem, as the governor just called it? well, i m not sure. from what i heard from the
i want to bring in someone who put out a remarkable front-page editorial that said fix this now. that was the preamble that was a call fountain state assembly to fix what he calls a perception problem. tim, does this address the concerns that your paper clearly has? so far what we ve heard are half steps, vague half steps. it s going to take bold action as we said this morning. half steps are not sufficient to put out this fire that s engulfed indiana in the last week. tim, you heard the governor say this isn t a problem with the law, it s a problem with perception. he says this perception is being created by smears and he also says it s being created by bad reporting. do you think that s the case or do you think that this law has now created this wave of economic reality where businesses are fleeing in some cases indianapolis?
i think we need to focus on addressing the economic reality, where we are today. there was an opportunity perhaps a month ago to make a case for this law. 2 that cloewindow s closed and th governor doesn t understand that. it s addressing the real issue. the message that s been received by the rest of the country and by many people in this state is that one that indiana will tolerate discrimination. we need to send a clear message that discrimination is against our values, that we will not tolerate that. half steps will not send that message. we have to take a bold step. we have to get outside of our comfort zones. the governor is not comfortable with take a bold step right now. but he s going to need to do that in order to put out this fire. tim, stick with us. let s get to mel robbins, cnn legal analyst. mel, you ve been watching this and listening to this. there s a lot to discuss and a